Re: [time-nuts] M12+ phase jump?

2006-04-23 Thread James Maynard
I Might be seeing the same thing you (Ulrich, Ernie, Brooks) are seeing, although I would not attribute it to WAAS or EGNOS, as I am not using a receiver that is enabled for differential corrections. I am using the 1 pulse-per-second output from a Motorola M12+ Timing receiver (M12+T) to disipl

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Geoff Powell said the following on 04/23/2006 05:42 PM: > Is PPS kernel discipline compiled into the default FreeBSD kernel? No, but it's a pretty easy thing to turn on -- you add a line to the config file and tell it to go. Pretty straightforward, *once* you find the instructions. > > >>I am

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread John Pettitt
Geoff Powell wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Pettitt > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> I'll second the soekris box - my box time.no-such-agency.net is a 4801 >> running FreeBSD with a GPS18LVC.You can expect offsets in the +/- >> 5us range except when the box is stressed - the

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread Geoff Powell
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Pettitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I'll second the soekris box - my box time.no-such-agency.net is a 4801 >running FreeBSD with a GPS18LVC.You can expect offsets in the +/- >5us range except when the box is stressed - the standard xtal in the box >is not te

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread John Pettitt
Geoff Powell wrote: > > >> And - most OSes should do the trick. FreeBSD has a really nice >> precision timekeeping interface, though -- and it makes a marvelously >> solid time server. I'm running it on a few Net4801s and recommend >> it. You can very easily build an image for it using

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread Geoff Powell
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >You'll get more than you expect -- the offset you're observing on >ADSL is very likely wrong, because the delays your packets experience >on adsl aren't symmetric. NTP assumes symmetry. So I wouldn't >actually believ

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread Geoff Powell
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Ackermann N8UR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >FreeBSD is definitely the best tuned OS for NTP timekeeping, but Linux >can do OK. The biggest problem is that there's no kernel support for >PPS signals in the 2.6 series of kernels. There is a patch available >for a

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread John Pettitt
David Andersen wrote: > You'll get more than you expect -- the offset you're observing on ADSL > is very likely wrong, because the delays your packets experience on > adsl aren't symmetric. NTP assumes symmetry. So I wouldn't actually > believe that a 1ms offset is really 1ms off, depending on th

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread David Andersen
You'll get more than you expect -- the offset you're observing on ADSL is very likely wrong, because the delays your packets experience on adsl aren't symmetric. NTP assumes symmetry. So I wouldn't actually believe that a 1ms offset is really 1ms off, depending on the RTT to your ISP. B

Re: [time-nuts] TADD-1 and Spectracom 8140T Phase Noise

2006-04-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
John Ackermann N8UR said the following on 04/23/2006 05:02 PM: > First, as a point of reference the HP 5087A distribution amp is spec'd > at 5MHz to have phase noise less than -145dBc(1 Hz) >1kHz from the > carrier. > > We did our tests at 10MHz, so the results are precisely comparable --

Re: [time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Geoff Powell said the following on 04/23/2006 05:00 PM: > So my question is - should I continue with Debian Stable, or would > OpenBSD be better for sub-microsecond accuracy? Indeed, is sub- > microsecond offset achievable with this hardware? GPSDOs and Rb or Cs > standards are not yet practical p

[time-nuts] Recommendations for NTP server

2006-04-23 Thread Geoff Powell
I've just started getting interested in precision timekeeping - if you can call an offset from UTC that is measured in units of milliseconds "precision". My current timeserver is a Buffalo Linkstation, patched to run Debian Stable, and slaved via 2MBit ADSL to my ISPs Stratum 2 timeserver, using

[time-nuts] TADD-1 and Spectracom 8140T Phase Noise

2006-04-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I had a chance today to take a TADD-1 and one of the Spectracom 8140T amplifier modules over to a friend who has an HP 3048 phase noise measurement system. We got some very encouraging results. First, as a point of reference the HP 5087A distribution amp is spec'd at 5MHz to have phase noise less

Re: [time-nuts] M12+ phase jump due to WAAS/EGNOS DGPS corrections?

2006-04-23 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Brooks, i live in Germany abt. 500 km north of Franfurt/M and i run a M12+ in continuous duty in my GPSDO. Normally i do not keep track of the receiver's pps. However, on April 23 15:00 UTC i have started to record the phase relationship as measured inside my GPSDO. Will be glad to assist you and

[time-nuts] sorta OT: manual request

2006-04-23 Thread Neon John
Not directly related to timekeeping but most metrology labs (used to) have a Dranetz 606 Line Disturbance Analyzer sitting over in the corner monitoring power quality. I have several of these and need to fix one. I'm looking for a copy of the service/calibration manual. And a full user's manual