[time-nuts] Question on disciplining oscillators

2006-05-02 Thread Javier
Hello all, I'm working on discipling a FRS-C Rb oscillator using a M12T GPS and a AT91SAM7S64 micrcoprocesador (ARM architecture) using the same concepts described in the famous Brooks Shera article. I've two questions: For timekeeping, it is better to turn on in the GPS both tropospheric and

Re: [time-nuts] Question on disciplining oscillators

2006-05-02 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Javier, this depends on your Rb oscillator, and if you use an external DAC circuitry then the DAC and DAC reference thermal sensitivity as well. Typically, the Rb including the DAC and DAC reference will be better than the GPS for time frames from 1000 to 1s. The GPS will

Re: [time-nuts] Question on disciplining oscillators

2006-05-02 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello James, I noticed that the M12+ has a significant temperature sensitivity, especially when air is flowing over the TCXO. Try blowing air onto the TCXO, I have seen the 1PPS immediatly wander off by much more than 50ns before the M12+ shuts-off the 1PPS output. Maybe you are seing

Re: [time-nuts] M12+ Temp sensitivity

2006-05-02 Thread Randy Warner
Said, Hey! Whaddya mean CHEAP? The marketing guys call it feature laden and cost effective! Anyway, you're right. The M12+ is extremely sensitive to environmental stimuli. On our receiver/adapter board assemblies I actually include a piece of foam tape between the two boards that gives the

[time-nuts] GPS timing recievers and INTERFERENCE

2006-05-02 Thread z3066384
Can anyone please tell me what is the difference between a STANDARD GPS receiver and a GPS TIMING receiver. Also I am final year student and doing a thesis on. Effects of Interference(CW) on GPS timing receivers in CDMA networks At this stage I am mainly interested on what will happen to the

Re: [time-nuts] M12+ Temp sensitivity

2006-05-02 Thread Normand Martel
I may be the 259th to ask you, but do you have a date when the new M12M will be officially available? I almost have bought a Resolution T a few weeks ago when i heard about the M12+ and it's successor, the M12M. Now i'm waiting! Well... I know... this is a forum about time... ;-) Have a good

Re: [time-nuts] M12+ Temp sensitivity

2006-05-02 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Randy, It's a feature, of course :) I wish the marketing guys would have added the $1 cost for the top/bottom metal can over the crystal and RF circuits (the layout engineer certainly wanted it and added the footprint to the PCB:) - like the old UT+'s etc. We all can't wait to see

Re: [time-nuts] GPS timing recievers and INTERFERENCE

2006-05-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
Welcome to the list, z3066384. Can anyone please tell me what is the difference between a STANDARD GPS receiver and a GPS TIMING receiver. Often what is meant by a standard GPS receiver is one that is optimized for position (lat,lon,alt). This is what one would want on a hike, or in a car,

[time-nuts] FW: IEEE 1588

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Hoover
Has anyone been following the recently issued IEEE 1588 Precise Time Protocol (PTP) standard? http://ieee1588.nist.gov/ From what I've read, implementations have demonstrated 10-100 nanosecond synchronization between computers connected via Ethernet. Sweet. I'm thinking of several research