Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-RB

2006-12-28 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Rex wrote: I just received a Lucent RFG-RB (no -m- in this one) rubidium unit eBay buy from the lady in Atlanta. Thought I'd share a few notes on what it is. Maybe some of this has already been covered -- I lost track of all the emails. Like John, I immediately opened it up, haven't tried it

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-RB

2006-12-28 Thread Rex
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:49:59 +1300, Dr Bruce Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rex wrote: The 15 MHz generation looks very similar to the other boad I described in another message on an FRS-C unit. The active source again seems to come from an Altera PLD. Maybe it divides 10 MHz by two, and

[time-nuts] TF Equipment

2006-12-28 Thread Erik Kroon
Hello Time Nuts, For private matters I will stop my hobby at the frequency field. I think to sell my instruments if any is interested, I can put it on ebay or sell direct. The equipment I have is; HP5061 (not working HV 2.5 kV defective condition of the high Performance tube is unknown),

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-M-RG and XO

2006-12-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gerald Molenkamp writes: After some reverse engineering of the BSC, I never understood the reason for the REG-M-XO in the BSC as it required a 10 MHz input from the RG for it to operate properly, e.g. the fault LED off. [...] The XO may simply be there to be able to

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-M-RG and XO

2006-12-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Thanks for the information, Gerald. Could the fault light without 10MHz input be as simple as the system reporting failure of the Rb? i.e., the XO unit working OK, but just reporting that the system wasn't operating properly. Like you, I'm having trouble sussing out just why this thing is

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-M-RG and XO

2006-12-28 Thread Rex
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:51:24 -0500, John Ackermann N8UR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the information, Gerald. Could the fault light without 10MHz input be as simple as the system reporting failure of the Rb? i.e., the XO unit working OK, but just reporting that the system wasn't

[time-nuts] New acquisition

2006-12-28 Thread Lester Veenstra M0YCM
Have ebay acquired a used HP10544A attached to a PC card HP 05328-20027. Plan to use it as an osc upgrade for a lest than perfect HP105B. Anyone have schematic, pinouts, function, etc of the card? Thanks LesK1YCM M0YCM M0YCM/6Y5 Pictures

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-RB

2006-12-28 Thread Jason Rabel
From what I have read, the RB acts as the primary once it has warmed up and locked, and the XO goes into 'standby'. But if something happens to the RB then the XO switches to the primary. Still waiting for Lucent to verify my account. I guess it wouldn't hurt for someone else to register on their

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-M-RG and XO

2006-12-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rex writes: I agree. The more I learn about the system, the odder it seems. Before looking at the RB, I would have guessed that the XO unit, with GPS, would have been disciplining the Rb to use in hold-over. In the RB, I don't see any signs of a connection to the

[time-nuts] ARRL FMT

2006-12-28 Thread Connie Marshall
Has anyone received the results of the ARRL FMT yet. Connie K5CM ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] ARRL FMT

2006-12-28 Thread Connie Marshall
Yes, but was hoping someone might have the frequencies since it's after the deadline. I will check with Joe at the league and see if he will post the frequencies or make us wait till the letters come out hi hi. Connie -Original Message- From: Carl Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-M-RG and XO

2006-12-28 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Back when these Lucent units were first appearing GPS had not yet been implemented at the cell sites here in Alaska. The rubidium was too noisy for direct frequency synthesis, so the XO unit was phase locked to the rubidium to provide the long-term stability needed, and the XO output was

[time-nuts] FMT

2006-12-28 Thread Connie Marshall
Here are the W1AW FMT Numbers I just received from Joe, NJ1Q (W1AW Station Manager) 160m - 1854317.5 Hz 80m - 3587117.5 40m - 7038804.9 Hz My copy of W1AW: 160M 1854317.77 Hz 80M 3587117.95 Hz 40M 7038806.03 Hz I missed the 40m W1AW frequency by 1 Hz for some reason Hmm.. I

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFG-RB

2006-12-28 Thread Richard H McCorkle
I'm sure Lucent engineers spent quite a bit of effort designing that metal box to keep the rubidium temperature as low as possible for extended life. If the rubidium is used in a different enclosure pay special attention to thermal conditions as the life of the rubidium is reduced with increasing

Re: [time-nuts] TIC resolution impact on GPSDO's performance

2006-12-28 Thread Jason Rabel
Bjorn and I have a little project going where we use the CNC Allstar receivers. They have the specific feature that their referens XO is at 10 MHz. This will make it very easy to drop in a suitable oscillator. As it happends I see that a FTS1200 and an Allstar receiver has showed up in my main

[time-nuts] FMT

2006-12-28 Thread Connie Marshall
Here is the WA6ZTY tx frequency: 40 Meters - 7028351.47 Hz My reading: 7028351.54 Hz I'm only off by .07 Hz here, so I feel my system was calibrated OK. Not yet sure why my reading on W1AW 40m was so far off (1 Hz). Connie K5CM ___ time-nuts mailing

[time-nuts] Digital PLL ICs,alternatives and digital loop filters

2006-12-28 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi all, Thanks for all of the very helpful responses, links and advice. I'm very sorry that I couldn't participate in the discussion at the time but I was a bit under resourced on e-mail facilities during the festive season. The trend that I noted from your replies is that the different

Re: [time-nuts] TIC resolution impact on GPSDO's performance

2006-12-28 Thread bg
On Thu, December 28, 2006 21:59, Jason Rabel said: Bjorn and I have a little project going where we use the CNC Allstar receivers. They have the specific feature that their referens XO is at 10 MHz. This will make it very easy to drop in a suitable oscillator. As it happends I see that a

Re: [time-nuts] FMT

2006-12-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Bill Tracey said the following on 12/28/2006 06:41 PM: I too got a 1hz high error on W1AW on 40. As I recall, the data had a double peak in it - think I picked the stronger peak which apparently was the wrong one. Apparently the propagation on 40 was interesting when the test was run.

Re: [time-nuts] FMT

2006-12-28 Thread Connie Marshall
Hi Bill, Several others have now said they were off by 1 Hz on 40m. Possibly Joe ( W1AW Station manager) typed the frequency wrong to my email, or W1AW measured the freq incorrectly that night or as John mentioned there was a artifact from the transmitter, or the Doppler was indeed that bad. I

Re: [time-nuts] FMT

2006-12-28 Thread Henry Knoepfle
Interesting! My numbers: 160: 1854317.9 80: 3587117.6 40: 7308806.0 Henry KB7NIE On 12/28/06, Connie Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, Several others have now said they were off by 1 Hz on 40m. Possibly Joe ( W1AW Station manager) typed the frequency wrong to my email, or W1AW

Re: [time-nuts] FMT

2006-12-28 Thread Connie Marshall
Hey Henry Looks like your W1AW 40m numbers are in line with the others. I just checked my audio wave file with spectran, and the 40 meter signal was strong and stable. Joe (W1AW station manager)said he would post the results to the W1AW/FMT website soon, so we will wait and see if it is the