Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Jack Hudler
Brooke, Well I would guess that all depends on what you fine under that cover! :) It appears to be a 4 wire system which could mean you may find a run motor and a correction coil. But I'm just guess'n. :) Send pictures! Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread David I. Emery
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 08:37:27PM -0800, Normand Martel wrote: > Hi Tom... > > Not only Telechron were very popular electric clock > movements, they were BY FAR the very best mechanical > movements ever made. > > When young, i've opened A LOT of used > electro-mechanical clock movements, and mo

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Normand Martel
Hi Tom... Not only Telechron were very popular electric clock movements, they were BY FAR the very best mechanical movements ever made. When young, i've opened A LOT of used electro-mechanical clock movements, and most of them showed evident traces of wear. Worn-out gear pinions, dried-out and s

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Neon John
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:50:46 -0500, "Mark Amos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This has led me to a silly quest. I'd like to use a traditional clock face >and hands as an output device for a >1PPS signal from my GPSDO. > >I know this is a very broad question, but does anyone have advice on where

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Jack: OK, so now I've won the Edwards school clock eBay item number 110081232209 I choose it because of the second hand. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110081232209 But how how to connect it? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacifi

Re: [time-nuts] Odd Request

2007-01-25 Thread Don Mimlitch
There was a "The Amateur Scientist" article in the September 1974 issue of Scientific American on "A venerable clock is made highly accurate by equipping it with quartz-crystal works" which shows how to drive a pendulum clock with a crystal oscillator. I have a PDF I can email (16MB) if you are

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Didier Juges
Thanks to Bruce, the app note is now at http://www.ko4bb.com/ham_radio/Manuals/1_App_Notes along with app note HP 57-1 Noise Figure Measurement and a Watkins Johnson app note on Mixers (scanned by myself) and others Didier KO4BB Dr Bruce Griffiths wrote: > I have just unearthed HP application

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread tom
mark, look at a cheap kitchen clock that runs on a battery and uses a 1pps to move the second hand which moves gears for the rest. tom w0kgw - Original Message - From: "Mark Amos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Odd request > Ti

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Hal Murray
> I know this is a very broad question, but does anyone have advice on > where I might start hacking (or making) a mechanical clock face to > accomplish this? Is there a simple clock design that I could start > with to build my own? Maybe replacing a pendulum or escapement with a > solenoid? An

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Joseph Gray
Oh, that would look so nice, next to some of my tube radios! - Original Message - From: "Dave Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Odd request > Yes- XYL, SWMBO, whatever

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Jack Hudler
Well well there's hope for her yet :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Brown Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:28 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Odd request Yes- XYL, SWMBO, whatev

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Brown
Yes- XYL, SWMBO, whatever!!! But she does like my Telechron 8B01-like this one http://uv201.com/Clock_Pages/Telechron/telechron_minitmaster.htm which some 'twas say the original digital clock. The 50Hz motor in mine needs replacing-considering a stepper motor driven from GPS-but that's another s

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
Yes, I have heard of 30 movements, but the ones I am working with have a sixty step racket and are designed for onece per minute stepping. That is an awesome clock! John - Original Message - From: "Dave Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measuremen

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Jack Hudler
It is elegant! Was that the XYL's opinion? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Brown Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:07 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Odd request - Origin

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Brown
- Original Message - From: "jmfranke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Odd request >I am going the same route and have discovered slave clocks which are > solenoid driven cloc

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Bill Beam
On 1/25/2007 12:50:46 PM, Mark Amos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Time-nuts > > I appreciate the comments regarding horological obsession. Mine started > with a desire for an accurate master > oscillator for my ham shack (built and use a couple Shera > GPSDO's) and has blossomed into a much broade

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Bill Janssen
Mark Amos wrote: > Time-nuts > > I appreciate the comments regarding horological obsession. Mine started with > a desire for an accurate master > oscillator for my ham shack (built and use a couple Shera GPSDO's) and has > blossomed into a much broader interest > in time (Ex tempus, sapientia?

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Jack Hudler
There are some clocks like the ones in schools that use a 1PPS, 1PPM or faster. On eBay 230081995247 nice 110082857347 neat!! 250076726064 110081232209 180076563718 This guy is selling a master simulator 200071362893 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Tim Shoppa
"Mark Amos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appreciate the comments regarding horological obsession. Mine started with > a desire for an accurate master > oscillator for my ham shack (built and use a couple Shera GPSDO's) and has > blossomed into a much broader interest > in time (Ex tempus, sa

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread David Forbes
Tom Van Baak (mobile) wrote: > > But one easy way to do it today is start with a $5 standard > quartz clock display. 1) Either run a precise synthesized > 32 kHz signal into it (replacing the xtal), or drive the little > bipolar stepper yourself. > > A 50 millisecond +1.5 VDC pulse is all you nee

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Mark: There may be some other approaches. Start from an electric clock that's battery powered and replace all the driving electronics and just drive the coil directly with the proper pulse rate. Start from an electric clock and replace just the crystal with a 32768 kHz signal. In the above

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Tom Van Baak \(mobile\)
> Time-nuts > > I appreciate the comments regarding horological obsession. Mine started with > a desire for an accurate master > oscillator for my ham shack (built and use a couple Shera GPSDO's) and has > blossomed into a much broader interest > in time (Ex tempus, sapientia?) > > This ha

Re: [time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
I am going the same route and have discovered slave clocks which are solenoid driven clocks. The clocks were once very popular in schools and factories. The hands typically step in one minute steps. See: http://www.clockhistory.com/setclocks/index.html I plan to use one of the clock movements

[time-nuts] Odd request

2007-01-25 Thread Mark Amos
Time-nuts I appreciate the comments regarding horological obsession. Mine started with a desire for an accurate master oscillator for my ham shack (built and use a couple Shera GPSDO's) and has blossomed into a much broader interest in time (Ex tempus, sapientia?) This has led me to a sill

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for informationon693-ASYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
I have the manual for the 1123-A,-AD and a working 1123-A. I can loan the manual, it is too large to scan. John - Original Message - From: "Dave Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on693-A SYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
I did find some information on the 693-A in a partial installation manual for a C-21-H Standard Frequency Assembly. I can scan the one page that at least shows the rack wiring harness if that would be of help. Or I could loan you the partial manual so you could tell more about the high volyage, e

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on693-A SYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
I did find some information on the 693-A in a partial installation manual for a C-21-H Standard Frequency Assembly. I can scan the one page that at least shows the rack wiring harness if that would be of help. Or I could loan you the partial manual so you could tell more about the high volyage, e

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on693-A SYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
I did find some information on the 693-A in a partial installation manual for a C-21-H Standard Frequency Assembly. I can scan the one page that at least shows the rack wiring harness if that would be of help. Or I could loan you the partial manual so you could tell more about the high volyage, e

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on693-A SYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
I did find some information on the 693-A in a partial installation manual for a C-21-H Standard Frequency Assembly. I can scan the one page that at least shows the rack wiring harness if that would be of help. Or I could loan you the partial manual so you could tell more about the high volyage,

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Bruce Rahn
Dr Bruce Griffiths wrote: > I have just unearthed HP application notes: > > 301-1: "Low noise division of 10MHz oscillators" > > and > > 935: "Microwave power generation and amplification using impatt diodes" > > Anyone interested in scanned copies? > Yes please! Be well -- Bruce -- Bruce R

Re: [time-nuts] The Shadow Knows

2007-01-25 Thread John Day
At 03:03 PM 1/25/2007, Hal Murray wrote: >Best line: > >Toward the end of 1986, Atwood curtailed the museum's collecting and >publishing activities. "Seth Atwood is the only person I know who was >infected by the horological virus and later recovered," Andrewes says. "For >most collectors, death is

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on693-ASYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Brown
- Original Message - From: "jmfranke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on693-ASYNCRO-CLOCK) >I have a 693-B which has a large dial

Re: [time-nuts] The Shadow Knows

2007-01-25 Thread Hal Murray
> http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/issues/2007/january/sundial.php?page=1 Neat! Thanks. Best line: Toward the end of 1986, Atwood curtailed the museum's collecting and publishing activities. "Seth Atwood is the only person I know who was infected by the horological virus and later recovere

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on693-A SYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread jmfranke
I have a 693-B which has a large dial, the internal 1kHz amplifier, and the power supply. I also have a 1103-A which requires an external power supply. They are slowly moving up my to do list. The only manuals I have are for the 1103-A. I would be interested in a manual for the 693-B. John -

[time-nuts] The Shadow Knows

2007-01-25 Thread Christopher Hoover
http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/issues/2007/january/sundial.php?page=1 ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO? (looking for information on 693-A SYNCRO-CLOCK)

2007-01-25 Thread Stan Searing
While we're on the old GR subject... I have a General Radio 693-A "syncro-clock and amplifiers" that contains a GR model 611 syncro-clock module. I think the oscillator and power supply are separate (and I don't have them). Does anyone have any information on the 693-A? (Copies of a manual would

Re: [time-nuts] Where to get handles and feet for HP 5334B

2007-01-25 Thread Bill Janssen
Hal Murray wrote: > Is there any obvious place to get them? > > I'm looking for the hand-friendly handles, not the rack mount ears. > > The handles are option 907, part number 5061-9688. I didn't have any luck > via eBay or google. > > > How do I get the handles off? Or rather, how do I get the

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread ko4bb
Bruce, If you can, please upload them to ftp.ko4bb.com using: Login: manuals Password: manuals Then I will move them with the other manuals and app notes at http://wwwmko4bb.com/ham_radio/Manuals Thanks in advance Didier KO4BB Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message-

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: John Ackermann N8UR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:11:29 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce, If you send it to me I'll happilly toss it up on my web! Especially 301-1 is would be nice to have. PS. [EMAIL PROTECTED] i

Re: [time-nuts] Where to get handles and feet for HP 5334B

2007-01-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hal Murray wrote: > Is there any obvious place to get them? > > I'm looking for the hand-friendly handles, not the rack mount ears. > > The handles are option 907, part number 5061-9688. I didn't have any luck > via eBay or google. > > > How do I get the handles off? Or rather, how do I get

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Yes! John Dr Bruce Griffiths wrote: > I have just unearthed HP application notes: > > 301-1: "Low noise division of 10MHz oscillators" > > and > > 935: "Microwave power generation and amplification using impatt diodes" > > Anyone interested in scanned copies? > > Bruce > >

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO?

2007-01-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Tom Van Baak (mobile) wrote: > For other old GR oscillator stuff see: > http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/gr1103a/ > http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/gr1190a/ > http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/gr676b-50kc/ > http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/old-genrad/ Tom, if you have a working Genrad oscillator,

[time-nuts] Where to get handles and feet for HP 5334B

2007-01-25 Thread Hal Murray
Is there any obvious place to get them? I'm looking for the hand-friendly handles, not the rack mount ears. The handles are option 907, part number 5061-9688. I didn't have any luck via eBay or google. How do I get the handles off? Or rather, how do I get the piece of plastic covering the

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Jose V. Gavila
Please I am also interested in 301-1: "Low noise division of 10MHz oscillators" Thanks! JOSE -- 73 EB5AGV / EC5AAU - JOSE V. GAVILA La Canyada - Valencia (SPAIN) - Loc: IM99SM Vintage Radio: http://jvgavila.com Vin

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Yes, also for the 301-1! Ulrich Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Brown > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 10:19 > An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Betreff: Re: [t

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Brown
Ditto for 301-1 DaveB - Original Message - From: "Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes > Yes Bruce > I am interested in

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Yes Bruce I am interested in: 301-1: "Low noise division of 10MHz oscillators" Thanks,Luciano Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:06 AM To: Discussion of pre

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO?

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Brown
A GR system - as per the tvb web page - in operation at Makara (an MF/HF receiving/monitoring site) near Wellington NZ-this came out of service in 1955 and was replaced with the completely home-grown frequency measuring system in the second photograph. http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tractorb/GR%20

Re: [time-nuts] old HP application notes

2007-01-25 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
I have just unearthed HP application notes: 301-1: "Low noise division of 10MHz oscillators" and 935: "Microwave power generation and amplification using impatt diodes" Anyone interested in scanned copies? Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO?

2007-01-25 Thread Christopher Hoover
> http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/gr1190a/ That's a nifty piece. What's the ADEV at tau=1s ? -ch ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] John Vigg Oscillators?

2007-01-25 Thread Rob Kimberley
Sorry about that - could have sworn it was Vigg Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Karlquist Sent: 24 January 2007 22:58 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency meas

Re: [time-nuts] Nifty old GR OCXO?

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Brown
Since the topic has been raised- herewith a few pix of an equally old (well, nearly!) OCXO using mercury-in-glass high and low set point thermometers for temperature control. http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tractorb/oven/ This came out of an early openwire carrier system-of UK origin-probably immed