[time-nuts] 5370B on eBay

2007-02-18 Thread Didier Juges
Two of those, with similar symptoms of bad sockets, otherwise similar appearance, sold within an hour of each other, one for about $100 and the other for $250. I guess a number of people got pissed after missing on the first one? eBay never ceases to amaze me! Didier KO4BB

Re: [time-nuts] HP-10811 comming up to speed

2007-02-18 Thread Didier Juges
Hi Connie, Interesting way to use Spectrum Lab (I suppose?) Didier KO4BB Connie Marshall wrote: Here is a shot of my HP-10811 comming up from a cold start. The power was applied at 01:41:00. Although this graph does not show it, the osc was about .05Hz low after three hours. Connie K5CM

Re: [time-nuts] HP-10811 comming up to speed

2007-02-18 Thread Connie Marshall
Hi Didier. you learn to use what you have. anyway, it seemed reasonable to me hi hi :) . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Didier Juges Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:36 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt list

2007-02-18 Thread Robert Deliƫn
Sorry guys, too much uncertainties for me; You can count me out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Bradley Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 19:04 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt list The Thunderbolts listed

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay

2007-02-18 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Most likely it went so high wa that someone spilled the beans on here !! 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Didier Juges Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:33 PM To: !Time Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay Two of those,

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay

2007-02-18 Thread John Miles
Assuming you're talking about the ones sold by sierrametals, I think I mentioned a few posts ago (2/13 at 1950 PST) that the problem with an earlier one he sold was simply that its reference switch was set to EXT. That appeared to be true of the second one as well. The earlier one was pretty

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Didier Juges
John, One was sold by sierrametals (went for $250), the other by electronicswest (went for $104) I remember your posting but did not associate it with these items. I bid on both, just in case since they were still at $20 an hour before close, but I was not even close to final price, in either

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Didier Juges wrote: does not have an OCXO, I think. I remember seeing a number of postings on time-nuts (must have been Bruce) advocating the increased performance of carrier phase tracking, but I need to educate myself about what it is and what good it can do for me :-) Any feedback

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Didier Juges wrote: On a different subject, I just won a Novatel Superstar 2 GPS receiver advertised to do carrier phase tracking. It's specification lists a timing accuracy of 50nS typical, which is not bad at all for a GPS that does not have an OCXO, I think. I remember seeing a number

Re: [time-nuts] carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Didier Juges
Bruce, Thanks a lot, I will wait until I get the unit and find out exactly which model it is, then I'll let you know what the next questions will be :-) All applications I have seen referenced when searching google for carrier phase tracking had to do with surveying or precise tracking. I

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Didier: Many GPS receivers output carrier phase data but it's usually used in post processing to get survey grade position accuracy. Since the code phase position accuracy is larger than a wavelength the receiver does not know how many integer wavelengths to add.

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Didier Juges
Brooke, I read about the uncertainty of absolute position because the carrier phase data has no absolute reference, but that still gives a very precise relative position (and speed) information. The point is that for timing, absolute position information is probably unnecessary. The benefit

[time-nuts] Seeking an original Op/SVC manual for an HP5062C

2007-02-18 Thread NE8S
Ladies and Gentlemen: I seek to locate for purchase an original Op/SVC manual for the HP 5062C Cesium Beam Primary Reference Standard. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Kind regards to all, G. W. Ko, E.D., M.S.E.E., Ph.D., Bio-Nucleonics Laboratory

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Bruce: Is there a paper describing the method? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke Have Fun, Brooke w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com Dr Bruce Griffiths wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Didier: Many GPS

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Bruce: Is there a paper describing the method? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke Have Fun, Brooke w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com Dr Bruce Griffiths wrote: Brooke Yes I

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Dr Bruce Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:53:55 +1300 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Bruce: Is there a paper describing the method? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B on eBay, carrier phase tracking GPS receiver

2007-02-18 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti99/PTTI_1999_405.PDF There is another paper just before it. There is also a patent for a specific form of implementation. Note they used an Oncore VP, the Superstar has a better carrier phase tracking.performance.