Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:57:12 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Magnus, I guess I was dating myself :). Jack, no worries! :-) Pablo,

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I was thinking of timing protocol only without any Ethernet on the fiber (Trying to think outside the box, which gets in more trouble than you know!). I'm not sure why Ethernet was mentioned, maybe they wanted to piggy back on

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Neville Michie
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Thinking outside the square What you need is a low frequency transmitter exactly in the middle of the ring... Neville Michie On 05/08/2007, at 5:01 AM, Jack Hudler wrote: I was thinking of timing protocol only without

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Jack Hudler
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hey! That's inside the ring! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neville Michie Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 4:39 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Neville Michie wrote: Thinking outside the square What you need is a low frequency transmitter exactly in the middle of the ring... Neville Michie Neville Isn't the accelerator located underground? Bruce

[time-nuts] Estate Sale find

2007-08-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I went to an estate sale today. I discovered a bunch of manuals from some guy that once had an electronics business. I didn't find the items they described, but I thought people here might be interested: (1) Rycom

Re: [time-nuts] Estate Sale find

2007-08-04 Thread Alan Melia
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Warner there have been queries asking for Rycoms on the LWCA message board and reflector I will risk your wrath and forward a posting there for you Regards Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: M. Warner Losh

Re: [time-nuts] Estate Sale find

2007-08-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Melia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false : Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY : : Hi Warner there have been queries asking for Rycoms on the LWCA

Re: [time-nuts] Estate Sale find

2007-08-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : (3) 2 envelopes (4 thick total) labeled NBS Time Receiver. These appear to be related to the design of a ATS-3 receiver, plus a lot of NBS

Re: [time-nuts] Estate Sale find

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : (3) 2 envelopes (4 thick total) labeled NBS Time Receiver. These appear to be related to the design of a ATS-3 receiver, plus a lot of NBS technical publications, schematics, parts lists, prices for the

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Jack Hudler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:01:35 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Dr Bruce Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:50:19 +1200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, Low frequencies penetrate the ground to some depth. However, propagation may vary seasonally as groundwater concentrations change. cheers, Neville michie On 05/08/2007, at 7:50 AM, Dr Bruce Griffiths wrote: Neville Michie wrote: Thinking outside the square What you need is a low

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Jack Hudler
Tell me your in the Dallas area and need help! -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 7:31 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet Well, guess what I do for a living... Cheers,

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Neville Michie wrote: Hi, Low frequencies penetrate the ground to some depth. However, propagation may vary seasonally as groundwater concentrations change. cheers, Neville michie Neville Even without the seasonal

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Thomas A . Frank
Ah, but what if one used the tunnel itself as a waveguide, and propagated an RF signal down it? Would it then reliably arrive at all the points, with a known delay? Since the tunnels are probably at least ten meters wide and tall, that's a pretty low frequency, which is easy to generate, and

Re: [time-nuts] Timing on Ethernet

2007-08-04 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Thomas A. Frank wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Ah, but what if one used the tunnel itself as a waveguide, and propagated an RF signal down it? Would it then reliably arrive