Re: [time-nuts] E1938s

2007-08-28 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY At 04.17 28/08/2007, you wrote: Just got mine and Marco Bruno's E1938s in today's mail. Marco: it'll go out tomorrow, unless you'd like to wait until I can run an ADEV plot on them both. Let me know. No hurry, I'm leaving

Re: [time-nuts] E1938 phase noise

2007-08-28 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Richard (Rick) Karlquist said the following on 08/28/2007 12:27 AM: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY E1938A phase noise should be similar to 10811, possibly even a little better far

[time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Brooke, Why don't you install PDF Creator? It's a free printer driver that creates pdf files, so any program that can print can create PDF's. You can set the page size to what you want, so I use 11x17 for schematics.

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Brooke, Re: my last post, I am not sure I read your mail correctly. PDF Creator is useful when you have a program that can open the document, I do not know what program is normally used to open .HPG files... Didier KO4BB

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Arnold Tibus
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:18:55 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Scott: I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at: http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg it's also linked on the E1938 web page under Theory of Operation. I have Autocad 14, but it did not want to load a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Scott: Yes. Can it be read? How did you do it? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com Scott Newell wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Newell
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY At 02:35 PM 8/28/2007 , Rex wrote: What are you using to convert the file? Corel Draw. I didn't receive any errors, but I don't know that the conversion is accurate. HPGL is pretty simple--I'll bet it wouldn't be much work

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread John Miles
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY My plotter emulator (7470.EXE) will actually render the file, but not at a high-enough resolution to read the text. Plus, it was stored in portrait mode for some reason, which is a problem for both 7470.EXE and the other HP-GL

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Christopher Hoover
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Brooke Clarke wrote: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but it's a program I normally don't use and

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:35:19 -0700, Rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used this free program: http://hpgs.berlios.de/ and got it to create a png file, but I had to edit the hpgl and remove a few commands that the program (and my

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi: Scott will convert the files and I'll post them when they arrive. I've also added a Windows control program to the page. You may need to force a reload to see the new items. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:01:12 -0700, Brooke Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Scott will convert the files and I'll post them when they arrive. I've also added a Windows control program to the page. You may need to force a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi brooke, The Windows control program link did not work. Can you explain, a little bit, about the program on your web page, besides here. thanks 73BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: Scott will convert the

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread John Miles
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Also looks like the link to the third paper of Rick's is broken. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WB6BNQ Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:13 PM To:

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs _ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png_

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) I don't completely agree. JPG is not good for line drawings like schematics. A lossless compression like GIF

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Bill Jones, K8CU
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI? Hello Said, Yes, no problem. Please direct me to the URL for the schematic in hpgl format. I can't seem to locate it. However, I did find the E1938 assembly

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:06:22 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to split a schematic between multiple 8.5 x 11 pages for printing.)

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:24:24 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Said, you have your timing screwed up here. PNG is definitly much newer than JPG. PNG is certainly standard and viewers are plentiful

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Rex: Too soon to say. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com Rex wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:01:12 -0700,

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:07:14 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: will be happy to post a high resolution schematic when I locate the hpgl source. The schematic may be more comfortable to view by

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY JPG can be set to be losless, it's supported by the standard, but I agree GIF or TIFF is better. gif and png are (normally) lossless compression. They are intended for graphs and such that only use a few colors. jpg

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I used the free SwiftView viewer to render the page on screen, then PDF creator to print it to pdf. The result is readable, I have uploaded it to http://www.ko4bb.com/Test_Equipment/E1938.pdf Didier KO4BB -Original

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Jean-Louis, you can upload it to my server http://www.ko4bb.com/ham_radio/Manuals Instructions are at the top of the page Merci d'avance, Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:22 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Didier, I just put the file on your server under the name E1938_asdrawb.pdf. I can easily save it to other formats as well if anybody prefers. Thanks for giving it a home... Jean-Louis - Original Message - From:

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:48:14 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 18:24:14 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Didier, I just put the file on your server under the name E1938_asdrawb.pdf. I can easily save it to other formats as well if

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ko4bb.com, all htmlized by hand... Yes, but you have decorations like

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 18:29:41 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have you opened a PNG lately in internet explorer? What a headache. Looks totally crappy, cannot zoom, cannot rotate etc. Not a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Thank you, It's been moved to the Test Equipment page http://www.ko4bb.com/Test_Equipment/E1938_asdrawb.pdf Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Anyone is welcome to download from where it is and put it where one chooses. I am just supporting an experiment in pdf conversion and offering a place where people can upload documents of general interest. Some documents are

[time-nuts] Hooray for hand-crafted HTML!

2007-08-28 Thread Murray Greenman
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Yep, hooray for fast and simple web sites! My site is also hand-crafted HTML3, written in Windows Notepad. has to be, to make up for the slow connections at QSL.NET! www.qsl.net/zl1bpu 73, Murray ZL1BPU

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Christopher Hoover
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I'll say this once again. The only two appropriate conversion options for the HPGL files are: 1. SVG -- the W3C XML standard for vector graphics (cf. http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ ) 2. PDF -- via a path produces vector

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:02:59 -, Jean-Louis Oneto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hello all, I succeeded to read it with Corel PaintShopPro XI and then

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 19:53:06 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anything else is a BAD idea. This certainly includes any path that results in JPEG of any sort, GIF, TIFF, or any other raster images

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:28:01 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:06:22 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to split a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:45:11 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: respectfully disagree: that would mean we should get out our good-old pen-plotters and vector-graphics displays as well? My E-size HP pen plotter is still working

Re: [time-nuts] Converting vector graphics for printing on raster printer or viewing on a raster scan monitor

2007-08-28 Thread Christopher Hoover
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Can you offer tools that do what you postulate is the minimum acceptable? My previous mail pointed to free tools that do precisely what I suggest is the best idea, i.e. converting to SVG and/or to vector PDF (for which there

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:44:56 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, ok, I guess my comment about 600dpi PDF files being sufficient for the job is not resonating here. Case in point: At a previous employer, our boss