Re: [time-nuts] How best to compute local time from GPS

2008-03-25 Thread Morris Odell
David Forbes asked: 2. If I have to store the time zone from the user's input, are the DST calculations reasonably straightforward these days? It's not too difficult and you get a nice refresher in modulo-7 arithmetic. I did it in AVR assembler recently although I didn't try to make it

Re: [time-nuts] How best to compute local time from GPS

2008-03-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] How best to compute local time from GPS Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:11:36 +1030 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoth David Forbes at 2008-03-25 13:37... ... 2. If I have to store the time zone from the user's input, are the DST

Re: [time-nuts] How best to compute local time from GPS

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: Quoth David Forbes at 2008-03-25 13:37... ... 2. If I have to store the time zone from the user's input, are the DST calculations reasonably straightforward these days? 3. What weird time zone operations should it support, such as 15 minute local offsets or

Re: [time-nuts] How best to compute local time from GPS

2008-03-25 Thread Mike S
At 11:07 PM 3/24/2008, David Forbes wrote... 2. If I have to store the time zone from the user's input, are the DST calculations reasonably straightforward these days? 3. What weird time zone operations should it support, such as 15 minute local offsets or oddball DST dates? 4. In general, is it

[time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Christophe Huygens
Hi, I am continuing my phase noise measurement quest. I gathered equipment (HP 8662a/11729C/8568B/multipliers) to measure 100Hz+ from the carrier. I now need to get a grip on the 0.1-100Hz range, which is where most of my applications are. What is the suggested measurement methodology for this

[time-nuts] new GPSDO available

2008-03-25 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi guys, sorry for the more or less commercial nature of this email. Wanted to share with you that we have shrunk our Fury GPSDO into a 1 inch x 2.5 inch x 0.5 inch tiny little package, called the FireFly. It's the most inexpensive new GPSDO that we know of at this time. It's less than

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread John Miles
I am continuing my phase noise measurement quest. I gathered equipment (HP 8662a/11729C/8568B/multipliers) to measure 100Hz+ from the carrier. I now need to get a grip on the 0.1-100Hz range, which is where most of my applications are. What is the suggested measurement methodology for this

[time-nuts] Lessons learned, Odetics 3/425

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Lane
Fellow clock-confusers, I learned an important lesson today, while troubleshooting the GPS receiver module in my Odetics clock for the 5th time. That lesson is Never assume that you've fixed an intermittent problem the first time. The second part of the lesson is Never assume the

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
John Miles wrote: I am continuing my phase noise measurement quest. I gathered equipment (HP 8662a/11729C/8568B/multipliers) to measure 100Hz+ from the carrier. I now need to get a grip on the 0.1-100Hz range, which is where most of my applications are. What is the suggested measurement

Re: [time-nuts] GPS and national standards in frequency

2008-03-25 Thread Marco A. Ferra
Thanks Mike, I'll give it a close look. Sincere regards, Marco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: terça-feira, 25 de Março de 2008 1:53 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS and

Re: [time-nuts] new GPSDO available

2008-03-25 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Joe, thanks for the feedback and questions! Some other members asked for more details, I will send out more technical details in the next day or two. You can make an SNTP time server with the FireFly or Fury GPSDO in two ways: 1) The simple way of doing it: Connect a PC running

Re: [time-nuts] GPS and national standards in frequency

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Marco A. Ferra wrote: Thanks Mike, I'll give it a close look. Sincere regards, Marco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: terça-feira, 25 de Março de 2008 1:53 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Shane
Wenzel has a setup you can purchase at low cost. http://www.wenzel.com/pdffiles1/PNTS%201000/BP-1000-SC.pdf Phase noise test sets can be pricey... $200K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Griffiths Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:43

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Shane wrote: Wenzel has a setup you can purchase at low cost. http://www.wenzel.com/pdffiles1/PNTS%201000/BP-1000-SC.pdf Phase noise test sets can be pricey... $200K Shane Their calibration method is somewhat problematic at the low frequency end where the effect of the PLL and the

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Shane
Do you know much about the RS FSUP50? http://www2.rohde-schwarz.com/en/products/test_and_measurement/product_categ ories/spectrum_analysis/FSUP-%7C-Key_Facts-%7C-4-%7C-966.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Griffiths Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread John Miles
Most, but not all, sound cards have a low frequency cutoff of 20Hz or so. Some (but not all) sound card ADCs can dc coupled. A high resolution dc coupled ADC may be more effective for frequencies below 20Hz. True; I'm assuming that anyone using a sound card for these purposes is either going

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
John Miles wrote: Most, but not all, sound cards have a low frequency cutoff of 20Hz or so. Some (but not all) sound card ADCs can dc coupled. A high resolution dc coupled ADC may be more effective for frequencies below 20Hz. True; I'm assuming that anyone using a sound card for these

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Shane wrote: Do you know much about the RS FSUP50? http://www2.rohde-schwarz.com/en/products/test_and_measurement/product_categ ories/spectrum_analysis/FSUP-%7C-Key_Facts-%7C-4-%7C-966.html Shane Only whats specified on the datasheet. Its performance appears to be several 10's of dB

Re: [time-nuts] Close-in phase noise measurements

2008-03-25 Thread Bernd T-Online
Shane wrote: Do you know much about the RS FSUP50? http://www2.rohde-schwarz.com/en/products/test_and_measurement/product_categ ories/spectrum_analysis/FSUP-%7C-Key_Facts-%7C-4-%7C-966.html This is a nice but expensive equipment. Nice: can do PN measurement by phase quadrature(where you