Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-02 Thread Steve Rooke
2009/1/3 christopher hoover : > Hal Murray wrote: >> Two of my Linux systems hung. One was running a 2.6.25 kernel and one >> 2.6.26. A system running 2.6.23 worked fine. I saw a couple of notes >> on >> comp.protocols.time.ntp about Linux systems locking up. One said that >> it was >> a kernel

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Quirks

2009-01-02 Thread christopher hoover
Hal Murray wrote: > Two of my Linux systems hung. One was running a 2.6.25 kernel and one > 2.6.26. A system running 2.6.23 worked fine. I saw a couple of notes > on > comp.protocols.time.ntp about Linux systems locking up. One said that > it was > a kernel bug in ntp.c but I haven't seen any

Re: [time-nuts] GPS12 leap second error

2009-01-02 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:13:32PM -0800, Tom Van Baak wrote: > I was sent a NMEA log of a Garmin GPS12 (f/w 4.60) showing > the strangest leap second trace yet. Has anyone else see this > before? In the ~15 seconds below, note: > > - double 235957 > - missing 235958 for the RMC sentence > - no se

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Poul-Henning Kamp skrev: > In message , Joe Gwinn writes: > >> This was done long before GPS was invented, or NTP for that matter. > > You should check the age of NTP, it is one of the oldest protocols > around being initially standardized in september 1985, but inhereting > most of its features

[time-nuts] GPS12 leap second error

2009-01-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
I was sent a NMEA log of a Garmin GPS12 (f/w 4.60) showing the strangest leap second trace yet. Has anyone else see this before? In the ~15 seconds below, note: - double 235957 - missing 235958 for the RMC sentence - no second 235960 for either sentence - strange 59 for the BWC sentence - miss

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Joe Gwinn writes: >This was done long before GPS was invented, or NTP for that matter. You should check the age of NTP, it is one of the oldest protocols around being initially standardized in september 1985, but inhereting most of its features from "ICS" which were first standardiz

[time-nuts] Early leap from SiRF chipset, BU-353

2009-01-02 Thread Hal Murray
The first column is MJD. The second column is seconds within that day. (I chopped off the right end to avoid line wrap.) 54831 86384.488 $GPRMC,235944.000,A,3726.0731,N,12212.2624,W,0.30, 54831 86385.489 $GPRMC,235945.000,A,3726.0738,N,12212.2624,W,0.45, 54831 86386.489 $GPRMC,235946.000,A,3726.

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Gwinn
Magnus, At 12:00 PM + 1/2/09, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:45:23 +0100 >From: Magnus Danielson >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > >>> : In practice, in platforms tha

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Magnus, Joe, et al, Please move the "leap seconds and POSIX" thread over to the LEAPSECS list. /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instr

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Gwinn
Magnus, At 8:39 AM + 1/2/09, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: > >Message: 9 >Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:35:59 +0100 >From: Magnus Danielson >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > >Message-ID: <495dd1ef.7030...@rubidi

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Gwinn
Steve, At 8:39 AM + 1/2/09, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: > >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:00:56 +1300 >From: "Steve Rooke" >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX >To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > >2009/1/2 Joe Gwinn : > >> Platforms

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
>> : In practice, in platforms that have access to GPS, NTP is used to >> : servo the local computer clock into alignment with UTC (or GPS System >> : Time (UTC without the accumulated leaps) in systems that abhor time >> : steps), and there is a transient error just after a leap second while >> :

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds and POSIX

2009-01-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joe Gwinn skrev: > Having worked in the POSIX committee for many years, I can shed some > light on how POSIX handles leap seconds: > > In short, POSIX adamantly ignores leap seconds. All days in POSIX > have the same length, 86,400 seconds. > > This omission is not by accident, instead having