Re: [time-nuts] Precise manual survey (was Common sky pps...)

2009-01-07 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Peter, that's a good question. Some users of our Fury use rented/borrowed survey equipment (Leica, Javad, etc) to get a very precise position of their antenna, or they call in a surveyor. It is also possible to let the receiver do the auto survey multiple times, preferably during di

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joe Gwinn skrev: > At 4:59 AM + 1/7/09, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:54:41 -0600 >> From: Brian Kirby >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded >> cable links to power-frequency ground loops >> To: Discussion of p

[time-nuts] 10638A Degausser for 5061A

2009-01-07 Thread J. L. Trantham
I recently uploaded a manual for the 10638A Degausser to KO4BB's website. I checked this AM and it is available for download. Joe ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2009-01-07 Thread James R. Gorr
http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T091/P0529.pdf When I look at the catalogue, the description says: > | UTC Receiver Module, 60kHz, no CPU | 561-1014-ND | 10.70 | CMMR-6P-60 | I have looked at modules like this before but what I saw was much more expensive. So I'd like to get one at < $11.00. H

[time-nuts] Re : Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops (Magnus Danielson)

2009-01-07 Thread Marc Bury
Magnus wrote: > Isolational transformers (basically 1:1 transformers, preferably > double-shielded, where each shield is hooked to the respective cable shield > side) > is usually preferred in this context. It can be effective to connect the >grounds on both sides to see if it causes the probl

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2009-01-07 Thread David M. Witten II
James R. Gorr wrote: > http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T091/P0529.pdf > > > When I look at the catalogue, the description says: > >> | UTC Receiver Module, 60kHz, no CPU | 561-1014-ND | 10.70 | CMMR-6P-60 | > > I have looked at modules like this before but what I saw was much more > expensive. S

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2009-01-07 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 08:52:23AM -0600, David M. Witten II wrote: > No, I haven't had time to make one work. It seems like a nice little > package, but how useful and for what purposes I am not yet certain. My > curiosity just got the better of me (again). The device produces a > pulse trai

Re: [time-nuts] Re : Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops (Magnus Danielson)

2009-01-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
Marc Bury skrev: > > Magnus wrote: >> Isolational transformers (basically 1:1 transformers, preferably >> double-shielded, where each shield is hooked to the respective cable shield >> side) >> is usually preferred in this context. It can be effective to connect the >> grounds on both sides to

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:52 AM, David M. Witten II wrote: > James R. Gorr wrote: >> Have you been able to RX WWVB with it (even if you haven't written anything >> to decode it)? > > No, I haven't had time to make one work. It seems like a nice little > package, but how useful and for what purpos

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2009-01-07 Thread Hal Murray
> I would like to know what others might do with this thing. One thing you can do is connect it to a PC via a modem control signal. There is software at: http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/radioclock.html A lot of the text is for a different hardware module but there is lots of info. In partic

Re: [time-nuts] Precise manual survey (was Common sky pps...)

2009-01-07 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Peter, I would think it's related to 1ns per foot, but depends highly on Sat geometry at any given time. I remember talking about this some years ago on time nuts, and someone mentioned it wasn't exactly 1ns/foot, but slightly less (if I remember correctly). Yes, the cable delay i

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2009-01-07 Thread brooke
Hi Jamie: The same company makes a number of LF time code receiving products. Their top of the line model combines a ferrite loop antenna, made to have very specific properties, with a three band receiver that resonates the antenna at either 40, 60 or 77.5 kHz by switching caps. The included CPU

[time-nuts] more accuracy

2009-01-07 Thread steve heidmann
tvb , When will you have your triphoton time base up and running ?   ( sciencedaily.com today ) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instruct

[time-nuts] FTS 4100 (4050/4060) Service Information?

2009-01-07 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I recently acquired a couple of FTS 4100/S12 cesium frequency standard modules. These are, I've been told, basically the guts of a 4050 (and maybe 4060?) commercial standard repackaged for military "fly-away" use. They run from 22-30 volts and have a couple of switches and a meter jack, but

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joseph, Joseph M Gwinn skrev: > Magnus, > > time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/07/2009 01:27:52 AM: > >> Joseph M Gwinn skrev: >>> First the background: >>> >>> In some timing distribution applications, the primary source of >>> interference comes from different ground voltages in differen

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Joseph M Gwinn writes: >The effect of differing ground potentials on a shielded cable is to pull a >large current through the shield, [...] The correct enginering solution is to use twinax, ground the shield in one end only and transformer-couple the signal at least in the other end

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
Magnus, time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/07/2009 01:27:52 AM: > Joseph M Gwinn skrev: > > First the background: > > > > In some timing distribution applications, the primary source of > > interference comes from different ground voltages in different parts of > > the facility, such as

[time-nuts] TB PS/Antenna recommendations

2009-01-07 Thread Ronald Held
I have not following all of discussions for a while, so perhaps I missed out on some of this. What do people suggest for a power supply and from where? The harder request is for an indoor antenna probable placed up against the window. Reliable dealers or stores would be very helpful.

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
Poul-Henning, time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/07/2009 04:25:04 PM: > In message 00090...@mck.us.ra > y.com>, Joseph M Gwinn writes: > > >The effect of differing ground potentials on a shielded cable is to pull a > >large current through the shield, [...] > > The correct enginering so

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Joseph M Gwinn writes: >Could be a differential TX and RX. I recall that they send a RS422 signal. Depending on the speed, RS422 works fine with transformers. >I imagine that the shield is grounded at both ends, if only for >safety reasons. That is actually a very unsafe practice,

Re: [time-nuts] Precise manual survey (was Common sky pps...)

2009-01-07 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Peter, we've got a number of different units running various tests in our lab right now, and they all can be tracked on the following site: _http://www.jackson-labs.com/images/gpsstat.htm_ (http://www.jackson-labs.com/images/gpsstat.htm) The units will flip-through the website ev

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
Poul-Henning, time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/07/2009 05:56:19 PM: > In message 007cc...@mck.us.ra > y.com>, Joseph M Gwinn writes: > > >Could be a differential TX and RX. I recall that they send a RS422 signal. > > Depending on the speed, RS422 works fine with transformers. Yes. I

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
Poul-Henning Kamp skrev: > In message > y.com>, Joseph M Gwinn writes: > >> Could be a differential TX and RX. I recall that they send a RS422 signal. > > Depending on the speed, RS422 works fine with transformers. You want a DC balanced encoding if you send data down the line, otherwise you

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joseph, >>> Could be a differential TX and RX. I recall that they send a RS422 > signal. >> Depending on the speed, RS422 works fine with transformers. > > Yes. It would be 10 MHz or 20 MHz, depending on coding. Or 5 MHz, so the > transitions are at 10 MHz. I don't recall, or never knew. R

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt antenna

2009-01-07 Thread Richard Moore
On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:43 PM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:08:22 -0500 > From: "Ronald Held" > Subject: [time-nuts] TB PS/Antenna recommendations > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Message-ID: > <9a86fb0e0901071408r4a205518mc346d7694f9af...@mail.gmail.co