Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt monitor software

2009-01-21 Thread Ed, k1ggi
Sounds like the tbolt is not getting the queries from the pc and therefore the responses are absent, but the pc is getting the unsolicited info from the tbolt. A fault with pin 3 on the DE9 would do it, or something deeper that kills the pc-to-tbolt comms. Ed, k1ggi -Original Message- From

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt monitor software

2009-01-21 Thread J. L. Trantham
I had a similar (but probably worse) failure of one of my Tbolt's. When I went back to turn it back on, there was no response on the software. Everything was a 'question'. The 10 MHz output was there but it never 'locked' as compared to my other GPSDO's (although it was EXTREMELY close) and there

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joe, >> The pre-heating trick actually makes the big soldering iron rest most of > >> the time... >> >> We have boards with so much ground/power grids that it is really a >> headache to do without pre-heating, which is similar to the iron case >> soldering problem. >> >> So, doing it this way

Re: [time-nuts] Setting loop TC using thunderbolt internal data.

2009-01-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bruce Griffiths skrev: > Hej Magnus > > Magnus Danielson wrote: >> Tom, >> >> Tom Van Baak skrev: >> >>> Ah, OK. So you keep the antenna connected and you keep the >>> GPS receiver in position hold mode, still receiving fixes. >>> >>> All you're doing is disabling the software disciplining algo

Re: [time-nuts] Setting loop TC using thunderbolt internal data.

2009-01-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bruce Griffiths skrev: > Magnus Danielson wrote: >> Tom, >> >> Tom Van Baak skrev: >> >>> Ah, OK. So you keep the antenna connected and you keep the >>> GPS receiver in position hold mode, still receiving fixes. >>> >>> All you're doing is disabling the software disciplining algorithm. >>> That

Re: [time-nuts] Isotemp OCXO36-54M pinout needed

2009-01-21 Thread Corby Dawson
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Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt monitor software

2009-01-21 Thread VK3FGJM
Hi, Yes, I can see alarm status and changes when unplugging antenna etc. As mentioned the unit actually works, just no data certain displayed. Regards, Gerald VK3FGJM -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of n3...@aol.com Se

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
Chuck, time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/21/2009 12:41:44 PM: > Hi Joe, > > When you preheat to 105C, you don't need to travel as far to > reach the melting point of the solder as you do from room > temperature (25C). That makes a big difference in how much > power you need to couple into

Re: [time-nuts] Setting loop TC using thunderbolt internal data.

2009-01-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Hej Magnus Magnus Danielson wrote: > Tom, > > Tom Van Baak skrev: > >> Ah, OK. So you keep the antenna connected and you keep the >> GPS receiver in position hold mode, still receiving fixes. >> >> All you're doing is disabling the software disciplining algorithm. >> That sounds like a good tes

Re: [time-nuts] Isotemp OCXO36-54M pinout needed

2009-01-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Corby, My BAD ! I got as far as the word ISOTEMP and failed to pay attention to the part number. Sorry about that. BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: > Hi Corby, > > Took a while to find it, but I knew I had uploaded the data. Half way down > this page from KO4BB's > site. > > http://www.ko4bb.c

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Joe, When you preheat to 105C, you don't need to travel as far to reach the melting point of the solder as you do from room temperature (25C). That makes a big difference in how much power you need to couple into the joint to make it melt. If you go straight to the torch, and use the brute fo

Re: [time-nuts] Isotemp OCXO36-54M pinout needed

2009-01-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Corby, Took a while to find it, but I knew I had uploaded the data. Half way down this page from KO4BB's site. http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=05)_GPS_Timing BillWB6BNQ Corby Dawson wrote: > Hi, > > I bought an Isotemp OCXO36-54M a couple years ago on eBay and used it > f

Re: [time-nuts] Isotemp OCXO36-54M pinout needed

2009-01-21 Thread Corby Dawson
Hi, I bought an Isotemp OCXO36-54M a couple years ago on eBay and used it for a short while. I wanted to run some tests on it but I can't find the pinout! Can anyone help? Much Appreciated! Corby Dawson Find the right voice for your

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
Chuck, time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/21/2009 11:34:41 AM: > Hi Joe, > > Nope, Magnus is talking about foam insulated hermetically sealed > ocxo's. > > The point you are missing is the preheater is only set for a temperature > that the foam, etc. can take on a continuous basis... such

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt monitor software

2009-01-21 Thread n3izn
Did you select the right comm port? I power mine off a lot and it has always come back. -Original Message- From: VK3FGJM To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 5:29 am Subject: [time-nuts] Tbolt monitor software Hi group, A strange situation has led me to ask a question abou

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Joe, Nope, Magnus is talking about foam insulated hermetically sealed ocxo's. The point you are missing is the preheater is only set for a temperature that the foam, etc. can take on a continuous basis... such as +105C. This preheat reduces the amount of additional heat that must be added to m

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair

2009-01-21 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
Magnus, time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/20/2009 04:47:26 PM: > Joseph M Gwinn skrev: > > time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 01/20/2009 04:32:15 PM: > > > >> Bruce Griffiths skrev: > >>> The relatively low thermal conductivity of the steel can will help > >>> considerably in avoiding the

[time-nuts] Tbolt monitor software

2009-01-21 Thread VK3FGJM
Hi group, A strange situation has led me to ask a question about the Tbolt GPSDO and the Trimble Thunderbolt monitor s/w version 2.6. While re-arrangement of the shack, it's been idle for 3 weeks, Tbolt turned off. After turning the unit on and letting it settle some 2 hour, I connected the mon

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt with Palisade?

2009-01-21 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 20/01/2009 09:32:45 GMT Standard Time, gr...@ghengineering.co.uk writes: Guess I'll have to start a search for an HP58532A, VIC-100, Vaisala or similar. I don't think a cheapy £4 patch antenna will give the same performance. - Hi Grant I think this

Re: [time-nuts] Setting loop TC using thunderbolt internal data.

2009-01-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: > Tom, > > Tom Van Baak skrev: > >> Ah, OK. So you keep the antenna connected and you keep the >> GPS receiver in position hold mode, still receiving fixes. >> >> All you're doing is disabling the software disciplining algorithm. >> That sounds like a good test. Let me tr

Re: [time-nuts] Setting loop TC using thunderbolt internal data.

2009-01-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Tom, Tom Van Baak skrev: > Ah, OK. So you keep the antenna connected and you keep the > GPS receiver in position hold mode, still receiving fixes. > > All you're doing is disabling the software disciplining algorithm. > That sounds like a good test. Let me try this too and see if I > agree with y

[time-nuts] ADEV vs. OADEV

2009-01-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi! I have been quite surprised to see the abbreviation OADEV appear. I assume that this means Overlapped Allan Deviation, but this is confusing since the Allan Deviation estimates already is overlapping. However, I have seen that some use a non-overlapping estimator, but this type of estimato

Re: [time-nuts] Wenzel Oscillator Repair (plus Tektronix CG551/CG5001/DC509/DC5009)

2009-01-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Mark Sims skrev: > Interesting... I just fixed a couple of Tek CG551 and 5001 calibration > generators that had the same problem. Tek uses a DC isolated shift register > chain to drive the internal control signals. The clock and data lines run > through toroidal pulse transformers that are m

[time-nuts] Tin Can Soldering (was Wenzel Oscillator Repair)

2009-01-21 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi, Wasn't following this one "real-time" but there is a useful trick used on aircraft instruments wit soldered cases. They put a ring of tinned copper wire in the joint before they solder it, leaving a "tail" sticking out. Next time you want to open it, you just pull the wire out (cold) and it