[time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Markus Kern
Hello everyone, I am new to the list and currently looking for a timing standard for a VLBI application. After some searching I have decided to use two thunderbolts for a first attempt and now have some questions regarding the different available versions. There seem to be two types of

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Sylvain RICHARD
Markus Kern wrote: Hello everyone, Hi, I am new to the list and currently looking for a timing standard for a VLBI application. After some searching I have decided to use two thunderbolts for a first attempt and now have some questions regarding the different available versions. There

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather question serial error

2009-02-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
David C. Partridge skrev: Yes, Windows always seems to think a Thunderbolt is an MS mouse. Look back in the archives about using /Fastdetect in boot.ini (BTW this doesn't work with WinXP 64 - so I had to disable the serial mouse in the devices). The cure for that is very old - don't have the

Re: [time-nuts] Weird Lady Heather behavior observed...??

2009-02-21 Thread John Miles
HOWEVER-- if I close the LH display and open it back up shortly thereafter, all my T-bolt running parameters start fluctuating wildly and going off-scale. Even the yellow temp line goes off scale and PPS OADEV and OSC OADEV both drop back to a high e-12. At what tau values, though? The

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread John Miles
I believe that the blue trace (#3) on the last figure from John Miles' page [3] is with the integrated 24 to -12, +12, +5 V PSU. So you are better off buying a cheap barebones Thunderbolt and a cheap linear PSU. That's my thinking, assuming the currently-available surplus ones all have

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather question serial error

2009-02-21 Thread francesco messineo
On 2/21/09, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: I'm considering a Linux port since I want to reduce my dependency on Windows at all times. before knowing about the existence of lady heather I had started coding a very simple Linux/Unix program that would work much like

[time-nuts] FTS 1200 and 9110 oscillator short term stabilities

2009-02-21 Thread Corby Dawson
Hi, Here are some results of the FTS 1200 and FTS 9110 oscillators I have recently tested. 1SEC 10SEC100SEC 1200 1 7.14-13 1.48-12 1.92-12 1200 2 3.29-13 1.80-13 3.28-13 1 and 2 above previously tested 1200 1B 4.00-13 5.50-13

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Markus Kern wrote: Hello everyone, I am new to the list and currently looking for a timing standard for a VLBI application. After some searching I have decided to use two thunderbolts for a first attempt and now have some questions regarding the different available versions. There seem to

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt serial port

2009-02-21 Thread bjon...@mindspring.com
I got around to tearing into the Thunderbolt this afternoon and after testing the serial port and traces in every way I could I found the problem... The power supply (which got with it in the TAPR buy) went south apparently. I got a 24v difference between pins 1 6 but when you checked them

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Tom Van Baak
For observations at 1420MHz, and short integration times (~ 100sec) the phase error needs to be 100ps or less. For longer integration times (10,000 sec is desirable) and higher frequencies the timing constraints are far more stringent. Whilst clock modeling can be used to improve performance

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Dave M
I currently have an HP Z3801A, which seems to be running well. I've been looking at the T-Bolts on Ebay for a while, but have been holding off buying. This post just gave me an opportunity to ask some questions. I've seen references to the TAPR group buy in previous posts. It obviously

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Tom Van Baak wrote: For observations at 1420MHz, and short integration times (~ 100sec) the phase error needs to be 100ps or less. For longer integration times (10,000 sec is desirable) and higher frequencies the timing constraints are far more stringent. Whilst clock modeling can be used to

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Lux, James P
On 2/21/09 5:20 PM, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Tom Van Baak wrote: For observations at 1420MHz, and short integration times (~ 100sec) the phase error needs to be 100ps or less. For longer integration times (10,000 sec is desirable) and higher frequencies the timing

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Stanley Reynolds
From: Dave M masond...@comcast.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:13:09 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions I currently have an HP Z3801A, which seems to be running well. I've been looking at the T-Bolts on

[time-nuts] Fw: Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Stanley Reynolds
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Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions, group buy

2009-02-21 Thread Tom Van Baak
I currently have an HP Z3801A, which seems to be running well. I've been looking at the T-Bolts on Ebay for a while, but have been holding off buying. This post just gave me an opportunity to ask some questions. I've seen references to the TAPR group buy in previous posts. It obviously

[time-nuts] Toilet paper speed

2009-02-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Tom, Don't forget to save a few squares ! BillWB6BNQ Tom Van Baak wrote: This is an interesting TF problem, actually. It depends what you mean by it. If it goes means the paper itself -- if you pull at a constant linear rate then it goes neither slower nor faster. It's constant and

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions, group buy

2009-02-21 Thread Mike S
At 09:51 PM 2/21/2009, Tom Van Baak wrote... So hang on a bit longer and I'll send the details next month. Note a number of people have asked privately (you know who you are) and those requests will be handled first. Since you've opened a can-o-worms here, I'll put my name in the hat for one of

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather question serial error

2009-02-21 Thread John DeArmond
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 11:42 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: I'm considering a Linux port since I want to reduce my dependency on Windows at all times. If you do, welcome! Please take a trip to: http://counter.li.org/ You might also be interested in my account of