Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Divider

2009-04-01 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Brian Ideally one would use something like a Johnson counter or a Grey code counter, decode the required outputs and then resynchronise the decoded outputs using a set of dedicated flipflops. Since such counters only change the state of one flipflop at a time it is possible to avoid decoding glitc

[time-nuts] Frequency Divider

2009-04-01 Thread Brian Kirby
Maybe we all could come up with a separate new board to take 10 Mhz and give us 5 Mhz and 1 Mhz out. Start with a buffer amp and then a decent Schmidt trigger. Feed it to a symmetrical divide by 2 for 5 Mhz, and a symmetrical dive by 10 for 1 Mhz. These out puts could be buffered with 74AC04

[time-nuts] Austron 2100F

2009-04-01 Thread Claude Houde
Hi everybody ! Thanks for your fast answers. If I can resume it is OK to buy the 2100F, but at a bargain price as it may be a really tough job to bring it back to life. Thanks also for the user's manual source, I will order it to start troubleshooting. Again thanks and best regards ! 73 from

Re: [time-nuts] PPS Divider (John Ackermann N8UR)

2009-04-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Bruce -- Good point; I'll leave it to the software guys to figure that out. :-) John Bruce Griffiths said the following on 04/01/2009 06:11 PM: > John > > Providing a 5MHz output will be difficult/impossible if the PIC is > clocked at 10MHz as a pin will have to be toggled with every in

Re: [time-nuts] PPS Divider (John Ackermann N8UR)

2009-04-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
Mitch, Ah, I can see a new TADD idea: a multi-purpose 2x multiplier or 2x divider, or 5x and 10x too. In your case, though, perhaps you could add a single flip-flop to a TADD-2 to get 5 MHz from 10 MHz, the old-fashioned way. You can't divide by two on a PIC because the minimum loop is a couple

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
Tom Van Baak skrev: >> I notice that this seller is using TVB's plots on his listing. This is a bit >> naughty. Did he ask you Tom? > > No, he didn't ask. I was a little surprised too. Me too. I saw just from the first plot that it should be one of Toms. At least you are credited, so it is not

Re: [time-nuts] PPS Divider (John Ackermann N8UR)

2009-04-01 Thread Bruce Griffiths
John Providing a 5MHz output will be difficult/impossible if the PIC is clocked at 10MHz as a pin will have to be toggled with every instruction. Surely this will leave no time for executing other instructions to produce other output frequencies? It may be possible to do this using inline code wi

Re: [time-nuts] PPS Divider (John Ackermann N8UR)

2009-04-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
You could probably get those output frequencies with a custom version of the PIC code. There shouldn't be any hardware changes needed, though the circuit board layout wasn't optimized for high frequencies so no guarantee on 5 MHz. The PIC source code will be available, so anyone who wants to m

[time-nuts] PPS Divider (John Ackermann N8UR)

2009-04-01 Thread Mitchell Janoff
In your post, you mentioned that the TADD-2, will have six low impedance outputs that can be individually jumpered to 1 PPS or 10 Hz through 10 kHz outputs. I was wondering if there was a way to provide outputs of 100k, 1MHz and 5MHz (assuming a 10MHz source). I am looking for a way to use a single

[time-nuts] Odetics Time Code Translator Model 300-413

2009-04-01 Thread Rob Kimberley
All, I've just had an enquiry from a US Military T&F user in CA wanting repair support on this product. Odetics (Zyfer) don't support them any more. If anyone knows of a US repair house I can point him to, I'd appreciate it. Thanks Rob Kimberley

Re: [time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Sorry, Ulrich -- just a joke! I actually wrote a lot of code in Turbo Pascal back in the 80s, and liked it a lot. (I know that Wirth et al never viewed the TP extensions to Pascal as valid, but they sure made it more useful.) John Ulrich Bangert wrote: > Gentlemen, > >> Gee, and I thou

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Stanley Reynolds
- Forwarded Message From: Stanley Reynolds To: Tom Van Baak ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:11:24 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay I have had mixed results with ebay, this seller has always been hel

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Stanley Reynolds
I have had mixed results with ebay, this seller has always been helpful and willing to make things right. But you should remember with used items reliability will be less than new and this makes ebay a poor choice where time is important. You should be able to evaluate any purchase as soon as p

Re: [time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gentlemen, > Gee, and I thought he was talking about Pascal. :-) > > John > Pascal = P word ??? I am a professional programmer and regulary program in a number of different languages among them Pascal, the language that comes after "B" and assembler for some microcontroller families. I have

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
> I notice that this seller is using TVB's plots on his listing. This is a bit > naughty. Did he ask you Tom? No, he didn't ask. I was a little surprised too. /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.feb

Re: [time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
Opps, my bad.:) Chuck Harris wrote: > Mike Naruta AA8K wrote: >> Not to worry Ulrich, he was using a form >> of derisive humor. He was insulting Prologix >> as undesirable. > > Surely, you jest! > > He was complaining about PASCAL. A really bad word > among those forced to use it. > > -

Re: [time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Gee, and I thought he was talking about Pascal. :-) John Mike Naruta AA8K wrote: > Not to worry Ulrich, he was using a form > of derisive humor. He was insulting Prologix > as undesirable. > > It would be similar to referring to Microsoft > as the M-word. > > > Mike - AA8K > > > Ulrich

Re: [time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
Mike Naruta AA8K wrote: > Not to worry Ulrich, he was using a form > of derisive humor. He was insulting Prologix > as undesirable. Surely, you jest! He was complaining about PASCAL. A really bad word among those forced to use it. -Chuck Harris ___

Re: [time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
Not to worry Ulrich, he was using a form of derisive humor. He was insulting Prologix as undesirable. It would be similar to referring to Microsoft as the M-word. Mike - AA8K Ulrich Bangert wrote: > Steve, > > after I read your mail I have been completely perplexed because I could by > no s

[time-nuts] P word in my mails

2009-04-01 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Steve, after I read your mail I have been completely perplexed because I could by no stretch of imagination detect where you had found the aforesaid P word in my mail. It needed the help of some English speaking friends and a search in my last mails to find out that I have (possibly over a range o

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Robert Atkinson
I notice that this seller is using TVB's plots on his listing. This is a bit naughty. Did he ask you Tom? Robert G8RPI. --- On Wed, 1/4/09, Eamon Skelton wrote: > From: Eamon Skelton > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay > To: "Nils Palm" , "Discussion of precise time an

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
Steve Rooke wrote: > This man said the P word without any form of apology :-) I know, and I am still shaking from the thought of it! Anybody got a wooden stake? -Chuck Harris >> >> It uses an easy to learn PASCAL like script language that your friend might _

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100F

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
You're asking me if I can say more? Most wish they could get me to shut up;-) The design for the receiver of the 2100T/F is a mishmash of synchronous and asynchronous logic. They mixed logic families in an apparent attempt to battle a few timing problems. On one board, there is 7400, 74LS, 74L,

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Eamon Skelton
> Now I was wondering what about these oscillators. > Why are they offered so cheap and so many. What have > they be used for ? These are from used equipment so they can't be expected to last as long as a new unit. They are probably from surplus telecomms equipment. > Also I cannot find any info

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, The LPRO 101 was used in cell phone systems to provide a stand-by frequency source when the GPS was unavailable. As systems are made obsolete large numbers of units are being recycled through the amateur world. They are cheap because there are more LPRO units than time-nuts and so are in ex

Re: [time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Hal Murray
> Now I was wondering what about these oscillators. Why are they offered > so cheap and so many. What have they be used for ? I think they are recycled from phone or cell phone upgrades. > Also I cannot find any information about the manufacturer on the > internet. Are they out of business ?

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix

2009-04-01 Thread Steve Rooke
This man said the P word without any form of apology :-) 73 2009/4/1 Ulrich Bangert : > Mike, > > I would like to second Brent's information: That is exactly how it is done. > Talking to the Prologix interface and talking to the NI interface is > COMPLETELY different in that talking to the Prolog

[time-nuts] Datum / Efratom LPRO 101 - ebay

2009-04-01 Thread Nils Palm
Dear All, I am a new in this field and need some advice. For the adjustment of our quarz clocks we need a reference. I came across some cheap offers on ebay for a EFRATOM / DATUM LPRO Rubidium oscillator http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180338976648QQssPageNameZMERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix

2009-04-01 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Mike, I would like to second Brent's information: That is exactly how it is done. Talking to the Prologix interface and talking to the NI interface is COMPLETELY different in that talking to the Prologix always means straightforward serial communication while talking to the NI involves DLL-calls f