Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Tom Van Baak said the following on 05/30/2009 03:44 PM: ... as long as you remember to use TI+/- mode. For stuff like this I use plain old TI mode and just set the UUT 1pps to lag the reference 1pps by a fraction of a second, or maybe even just a couple of microseconds. That way you get a sma

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <81fa4fd1186b4407be773c83adf59...@pc52>, "Tom Van Baak" writes: >> ... as long as you remember to use TI+/- mode. > >For stuff like this I use plain old TI mode and just set the >UUT 1pps to lag the reference 1pps by a fraction of a >second, or maybe even just a couple of microseconds.

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
1) are you comparing two relatively stable 1pps sources, or If (1), then any time interval counter will work for you. There is no issue of "dead time" or "continuous" measurement. You can calculate ADEV directly from the raw output of the 5370, because it is giving you a periodic series of time i

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <7487a8e5980845359b6047d0e84c6...@pc52>, "Tom Van Baak" writes: >1) are you comparing two relatively stable 1pps sources, or > >If (1), then any time interval counter will work for you. There >is no issue of "dead time" or "continuous" measurement. You >can calculate ADEV directly from

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more....

2009-05-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
I'm not sure it's possible to make continuous stability measurements (Allan deviation, etc.) directly with a 5370 since they don't support running/overlapped measurements between readings. John, It depends on what you mean by "readings". Or on what the two sources are: 1) are you comparing two

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544A Confusion

2009-05-30 Thread Jim Flanagan
Yes.. I ran across these references also. Thanks ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Picket fence ADEV measurement on 5370 counters

2009-05-30 Thread John Miles
> I have done picket-fencing for years on my 5370B and never seen this > problem. > > I usually use a 1Hz signal as start and a 10MHz from my house reference > as the stop. That seems to work OK on this counter, now that you mention it, except that I see wraparound from 105 ns to 6 ns rather than

Re: [time-nuts] Picket fence ADEV measurement on 5370 counters

2009-05-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , "John Miles" writes: >2) Something peculiar that my 5370B does: when the A-B time interval is >about 60 milliseconds either side of coincidence, the counter fails to >report a measurement at every other second. E.g.: I have done picket-fencing for years on my 5370B and never seen th

[time-nuts] Picket fence ADEV measurement on 5370 counters

2009-05-30 Thread John Miles
Further to this: > I'm not sure it's possible to make continuous stability > measurements (Allan > deviation, etc.) directly with a 5370 since they don't support > running/overlapped measurements between readings. If you can work with a > 1-pps output and can provide a divider for your reference,

[time-nuts] Austron 2100 Antenna

2009-05-30 Thread Skip Withrow
I have run an Austron 2100 for a long time with a home-made antenna consisting of a short (15') vertical wire with an active impedence transformer at the base. It is just a FET source follower where the wire drives the base and the source drives the coax to the receiver. Power is fed up the

[time-nuts] Z3816A and UT GPS questions

2009-05-30 Thread Rex
Does anyone remember much about the old Motorola Oncore UT GPS receivers? I have an HP Z3816a GPS timing receiver. I've been meaning for a long time to add a display for UTC time to it for a while. Today I finally got that project built and installed, and it works as intended, but I'm seeing s