Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A PSU and Outer Oven Control

2009-07-03 Thread GandalfG8
ROFL:-) In a message dated 02/07/2009 23:14:28 GMT Daylight Time, did...@cox.net writes: Bingo :) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of gandal...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:47 PM To:

[time-nuts] Wireless Adapter for an TBolt

2009-07-03 Thread Brucekareen
Has anyone coupled a wireless adapter to a TBolt so that it can be accessed from a computer in another room. This would be convenient for me if it could be made to work. Bruce Hunter **It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule!

Re: [time-nuts] Wireless Adapter for an TBolt

2009-07-03 Thread Francesco Ledda
you could use remote desktop -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of brucekar...@aol.com Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 8:50 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Wireless Adapter for an TBolt Has anyone coupled a

Re: [time-nuts] Wireless Adapter for an TBolt

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Darlington
Pretty much any Bluetooth serial adapter should do it. Running a cable would be cheaper though. http://www.iogear.com/product/GBS301/ http://www.rovingnetworks.com/firefly.php http://www.aircable.net/serial.html -Bob On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:50 AM, brucekar...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Wireless Adapter for an TBolt

2009-07-03 Thread bg
Google for bluetooth serial adapter -- Björn you could use remote desktop -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Has anyone coupled a wireless adapter to a TBolt so that it can be accessed from a computer in another room.

Re: [time-nuts] Wireless Adapter for an TBolt

2009-07-03 Thread bg
I was to slow... ;-) Pretty much any Bluetooth serial adapter should do it. Running a cable would be cheaper though. http://www.iogear.com/product/GBS301/ http://www.rovingnetworks.com/firefly.php http://www.aircable.net/serial.html -Bob ___

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50 (Cutting ferrite cores)

2009-07-03 Thread Joe Gwinn
At 1:13 PM + 7/3/09, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: [snip] -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Griffiths Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:13 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject:

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Week 1536 causing problems?

2009-07-03 Thread Kasper Pedersen
Magnus Danielson wrote: Unfortunatly I have heard a few reports of failures, one which I can't disclose the details of right now, but replacing GPS equipment solve the issue. I didn't think this would hit me, and I don't know if it's related, but: I have (had) 2 Garmin GPS-18x fw 3.00 on

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Week 1536 causing problems?

2009-07-03 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Kasper Pedersentime-n...@kasperkp.dk wrote: I have (had) 2 Garmin GPS-18x fw 3.00 on the windowsill, one driving a homecooked GPSDO, the other just a separate pps. This morning both of them were quiet; There's no NMEA data coming out of them, no pps, nothing.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Week 1536 causing problems?

2009-07-03 Thread Hal Murray
Anyone else lose an 18x? I assume you have tried power cycling them. I lost one a while ago. Similar. It just stopped doing anything useful. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Google Patent Search is Broken

2009-07-03 Thread Mike Monett
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:55:36 -0300, Mike Monett wrote: I'm hoping a lot of these problems will soon go away. I have WinXP SP3 running in VirtualBox 3.0 on Ubuntu 9.04, and it works great. But it doesn't like running my old DOS programs. The screen update is so

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Mike Monett
(This is a repost to see if I can figure out why the original was scrubbed. Sorry for the duplicate.) An update on the Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50. I prepared a 'schematic' of the Output Board and the Oscillator Board (attached) and I have lots of pictures of the external

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Week 1536 causing problems?

2009-07-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hal Murray wrote: Anyone else lose an 18x? I assume you have tried power cycling them. I lost one a while ago. Similar. It just stopped doing anything useful. Battery failure? The things I have been pointing to is to specific firmware bugs or missfeatures. Doesn't rule out a whole

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Mike Monett wrote: (This is a repost to see if I can figure out why the original was scrubbed. Sorry for the duplicate.) An update on the Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50. I prepared a 'schematic' of the Output Board and the Oscillator Board (attached) and I have lots of

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Mike Monett wrote: (This is a repost to see if I can figure out why the original was scrubbed. Sorry for the duplicate.) An update on the Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50. I prepared a 'schematic' of the Output Board and the Oscillator Board (attached) and I have lots of

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread WarrenS
Here is my two cents worth 20 mv output, sure sounds like something is broken. It should be fixed before it is modified. The 2.49 volts on the Red input voltage seem LOW, More Vcc maybe. The Grn labeled wire, FreqCtrl input should be about 1/2 VCC for testing. If you do 'need' to modify the

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Mike Monett
Mike Monett wrote: A couple of things. First, trying to measure the currents in the circuit with a ferrite toroid won't do you much good. You don't know what the currents should be, and the secondary of the toroid transformer requires a termination resistor. The value

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread J. L. Trantham
I did not realize that this post would generate this much discussion. While I have a BEE and MSEE, I am a practicing Cardiac Electrophysiologist and it has been some time since I thought about such issues. I have learned a lot though from the discussions and as medicine as we know it winds

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Mike Monett wrote: Mike Monett wrote: A couple of things. First, trying to measure the currents in the circuit with a ferrite toroid won't do you much good. You don't know what the currents should be, and the secondary of the toroid transformer requires a termination

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread WB6BNQ
I agree with Warren. The VCC seems way too low. Interestingly, noone else seems to think so, or did not notice it. BillWB6BNQ WarrenS wrote: Here is my two cents worth 20 mv output, sure sounds like something is broken. It should be fixed before it is modified. The 2.49 volts on

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Mike Monett
Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50 J. L. Trantham jltran at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 4 02:07:48 UTC 2009 I did not realize that this post would generate this much discussion. While I have a BEE and MSEE, I am a practicing Cardiac Electrophysiologist and it has

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
WarrenS wrote: Here is my two cents worth 20 mv output, sure sounds like something is broken. It should be fixed before it is modified. The 2.49 volts on the Red input voltage seem LOW, More Vcc maybe. Not so, if the resistor values are correct this is the voltage that one should get. The

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
WB6BNQ wrote: I agree with Warren. The VCC seems way too low. Interestingly, noone else seems to think so, or did not notice it. BillWB6BNQ It was noticed, but it is consistent with the resistor values used in the circuit. The crystal current is determined by the dc emitter

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Joe You can always try to see how it performs with a cheap crystal, padding out the ESR with a resistor to determine the ESR limit at which the circuit fails to oscillate. The crystal current doesn't depend strongly on the crystal operating Q(as long as the circuit oscillates), so using a cheap

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
You can estimate the crystal current by measuring the RF voltage across the 15pF cap in the oscillator circuit and estimate/measure the varactor and trimmer capacitors. Alternatively, temporarily replace all these caps with a 33pF cap connected from the inductor in series with crystal and ground.

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread WarrenS
A couple more thoughts; Is the VCC (Red wire) current draw correct?. Should be 1.3 ma (per the schematic values) with the 470 Ohm and more like 7 plus ma with the 47 ohm. AND I don't remember seeing, IS the Freq real close AND can it be tuned by the cap and Green wire voltage? If both answers

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
WarrenS wrote: A couple more thoughts; Is the VCC (Red wire) current draw correct?. Should be 1.3 ma (per the schematic values) with the 470 Ohm and more like 7 plus ma with the 47 ohm. AND I don't remember seeing, IS the Freq real close AND can it be tuned by the cap and Green wire

[time-nuts] Interesting jump in my Z3805

2009-07-03 Thread Steve Rooke
Attached plot of jump in my Z3805. Looks like there was a jump and then then a rapid track back to the normal frequency drift. Comments please? 73, Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD JAKDTTNW A man with one clock knows what time it is; A man with two clocks is never quite sure. attachment:

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread WarrenS
Thus one cannot arbitrarily increase Vcc without considering the consequences ... True, but with the AC voltages as low as they are, I do think it is safe to think that the crystal current should be higher. I was not suggesting to arbitrarily rise the Vcc, I was asking any chance it is at

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Warren I agree, it's certainly possible that the external circuitry should have a higher operating voltage than 5V. A crystal current of 50uA to 1mA or so might perhaps be expected for a typical 10MHz overtone crystal. Unless some non standard crystal cut with exceptionally high ESR is used.

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-07-03 Thread WarrenS
I just saw your schematic of the rest of the buffer circuit. Sorry I missed it early. The Osc Vcc is shown driven from a 510 Ohm resistor, and with the total current thru the 510 res at under 2 ma, Looks like Osc Vcc should be at more like 4.0 volts instead of 2.49 volts. If I'm correct about