Re: [time-nuts] Antenna problems

2010-08-22 Thread David Bobbett
Mark is absolutely right about this Peter, the Tbolt receiver is 'deaf' by modern standards. In fact I seem to remember the Tbolt documentation specifically mentions the use of a +26dB aerial. I use a +16dB Lucent unit on top of the TV pole here in Central England and although there is enough

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-22 Thread dk4xp
NXP BF862, available from digi-key. Don't these devices have relatively high flicker noise? 1/f corner is well below 100 Hz. Look at the noise voltage plots of that audio guy I cited. My results for the BF862 were the same shape, absolutely somewhat worse in amplitude because I

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna problems

2010-08-22 Thread J. L. Trantham
Peter, There was a long thread on the list several months ago about choke-ring antennas and how to build one out of cake pans. However, the issue you describe sounds more like lack of gain/signal rather than multipath interference. I have used several types of antennas for my TBolt including

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna problems

2010-08-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I am running a typical 30 ish db antenna and about 50 feet of TV satellite coax on my GPSDO farm. The feed line goes into an HP +/- 3 db 4 way splitter. That splitter feeds a set of four passive eight way splitters. The coax and 8 way splitters dump at least 12 db before anything gets to a

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna problems

2010-08-22 Thread k6rtm
Peter-- Antenna gain and placement make a lot of difference. Yesterday I swapped out my old Trimble active patch antenna (24 - 26 dBc) for an HP/Symmetricom 58532A antenna (30+ dBc). It's on the roof of our two story house, at the end of probably 20 meters of reasonable quality feedline

[time-nuts] Antenna problems

2010-08-22 Thread Peter Krengel
Thanks Mark David for the tips Peter, DG4EK - Original Message - From: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: time-nuts Digest, Vol 73, Issue 95 Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to time-nuts@febo.com To subscribe

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-22 Thread dk4xp
I think, I'll test some Analog Devices ADA9848-2 in parallel. It's hard to beat that combination of noise, 1/f, bandwidth, offset stability and price. Oooops, ADA4898-2 http://www.analog.com/en/amplifiers-and-comparators/operational-amplifiers-op-amps/ada4898-2/products/product.html

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The link isnt particularly useful as guests cant view the attachments and registration is disabled Bruce dk...@arcor.de wrote: Wenzel Audio Amp referred to in this email. Perfect! I drive with it a 3561A and a 7L5! Works for me. The only problem is getting any more 2SK369. Any

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
http://www.synaesthesia.ca/LNschematics.html Is a better link, in that one can actually view the circuit schematics. There are a few simple refinements that will dramatically improve the low frequency PSRR of the single ended JFET circuits in the HPS5.1: 1) split the 3k3 resistor feeding the

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The noise measurements for the HPSs 5.1 preamp: http://www.synaesthesia.ca/LNmeasurements.html indicate that while the high frequency noise is about 2.2x lower than an optimised single ended 2SK369 preamp its flicker noise is far higher. If one uses 5 2SK369's connected in parallel the flicker