Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread russell
Isn't the temperature inside the OCXO oven held at a set point (greater than ambient) with it own independent thermostat? The DS1620 thermometer only reads ambient temperature. In this case amibent means inside the Tbolt enclosure. If so, what does the Lady Heather "t t" command do? It pr

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread bg
Instead of reacting to a change in the OCXO, the control software can be proactive wrt a change that is heading towards the inside of the oven. -- Björn > What is the purpose of the temperature sensor chip on the PCB, anyway? > Isn't the temperature inside the OCXO much more important? > > -

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread Mark J. Blair
What is the purpose of the temperature sensor chip on the PCB, anyway? Isn't the temperature inside the OCXO much more important? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts ma

[time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread Mark Sims
Long term stability is pretty much totally irrelevant for Tbolts.  What is important is resolution of the temperature readings.  The Tbolt responds much more to changes in temperature,  not absolute temperature.   Since few of us have an oil bath to chec

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt Anomalous Behavior

2010-09-27 Thread Peter Putnam
Greetings, I have posted two plots graciously provided for me by Lady Heather, showing strange behavior in my recently acquired Thunderbolt. It has been powered continuously for the last two weeks. The plots can be seen at: http://www.ni6e.com/TBolt/ An explanation for the abrupt change in

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Based only on the fact that they never fixed the problem with the chip - I don't think they do a lot of fine grain temperature correction. They certainly went on shipping the units as spec compliant. Bob On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > >> Bottom line appears to be - f

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread Hal Murray
> Bottom line appears to be - fine for day to day checks. I would not trust > any of these chips to be long term stable to sub 10 mK levels. I think the temperature correction is only used in holdover. What's the time constant on learning the temperature profile of the OCXO? As long as the agi

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Since few of us have an oil bath to check the thermometer chips with, it's tough to really know what the long term stability is. Those of us that do have sufficiently precise oil baths are a bit reluctant to dunk a TBolt in them on a regular basis Bottom line appears to be - fine for da

[time-nuts] My Palisade Issues resolved + Checking Stability and accuracy :)

2010-09-27 Thread Chris H
Hello, For anyone who has been following my questions, my palisade issues seem to have been corrected now. Just had to make a bit of a patch to the refclock_palisade.c driver, and send a character to the device, for hardware polling.. We suspect that perhaps my RS422 to RS232 adaptors might not

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread Heathkid
Great suggestion! I bought two of the Symmetricom 58535A's from Mike Feher. It'll be great only having to deal with *one* antenna and feedline plus I'll have a spare antenna (and a spare splitter - for now)! :) Now... lots of adapters and patch cables to buy (N to F)... I've also bought fou

Re: [time-nuts] MCL Antenna Splitter

2010-09-27 Thread Mark Spencer
Home depot here in Canada sells a three way (one input, three outputs) satellite TV splitter with power pass thru on one port only.   This works okay with my Thunderbolt and Rockwell Jupiter based GPSDO, with the un used port terminated with a 75 ohm load.    I did notice that when I powered th

[time-nuts] MCL Antenna Splitter

2010-09-27 Thread Arthur Dent
I am using one of the MCL-ZAPD-3DB units I bought new on Ebay and it was easy to change the input antenna connector from an “N” to the “TNC” connector that I needed, eliminating an adaptor and probably a little loss. One of the outputs from the ZAPD is connected to a 40-2400MHz 4–way splitter (

[time-nuts] MCL Antenna Splitter

2010-09-27 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Time-Nuts, Check out ebay auction 360303616823 for one of the Minicircuits antenna splitters. These units are pulls from telco equipment and will feed power from both/either side. I haven't hooked up a DC block (to protect the signal generator) so haven't measured the gain through the

Re: [time-nuts] [Off-List] antennas & GPS Splitters

2010-09-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The HP splitters I have torn into have a few nice features: 1) They have built in RF bandpass filtering on a per output basis. No re-circulating RFI. Better protection for the GPS receiver input. 2) They will pass DC from one port and correctly DC terminate the other ports (no antenna missing

Re: [time-nuts] [Off-List] antennas & GPS Splitters

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Feher
Brooke - The data can be found on the Symmetricom site. Connectors are N. 73 - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Monday, Septe

Re: [time-nuts] [Off-List] antennas & GPS Splitters

2010-09-27 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Mike: Can you tell me about features of the 58535A? Connector type, DC pass through, photo? Total to zip 95482? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com Mike Feher wrote: I still have some of the Symmetricom 58535A GPS splitters/amplifiers. Details: 1 58535A $35 plus $ 4.95 priority

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread shalimr9
Last time I checked, the HP/Symmetricom HP58532A GPS antenna was cheaper than a GPS splitter (I paid $50 for my HP58532A, with shipping, and it was brand new). Of course, with two antennas, you will need two feed lines which, depending how long they are, could cost you more than the antenna itse

[time-nuts] antennas & GPS Splitters

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Feher
I still have some of the Symmetricom 58535A GPS splitters/amplifiers. Details: 1 58535A $35 plus $ 4.95 priority flat rate shipping 2 58535A $65 plus $ 4.95 priority flat rate shipping 4 58535A $120 plus $10.70 priority flat rate shipping These are new in original packing. PayPal to my email p

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread k6rtm
Rather than put up two antennas, why not use one, and pick up a HP/Symmetricom GPS splitter? (Mini-Circuits makes a similar unit). You can find them on eBay for various prices. The Symmetricom one, the 58535A, supports 2 GPS receivers. It has a built-in amplifier and filters, so it provides high