[time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Geraldo Lino de Campos
If you didn´t started yet, you may consider the PSoC series of Cypress semiconductors. They contain digital and analog resources within the chip, simplifying the hardware design – and hardware changes. The new design, PsoC 5, is based on the ARM architecture, up to 256KB code and 64kB data,

Re: [time-nuts] FW: E5500 phase noise test set

2010-12-15 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Clive, The PCI card was not made by  HP. see http://control.etfbl.net/mjerenja/pci20428w.pdf  for the manual. It's a multi-purpose card so you need to know which inputs (or outputs) are used. The HP system description may help. Otherwise you will have to get someone with the adaptor to do

Re: [time-nuts] FW: E5500 phase noise test set

2010-12-15 Thread Adrian
The link didn't work, so I searched for PCI20428 and found this: http://www.bedogmbh.de/seite5010.htm (scroll down to find the card) Worst case you can buy a break-out box: http://www.bedogmbh.de/seite1412.php http://www.bedogmbh.de/pdf/22101035.pdf I'm not affiliated with them. Recently I saw

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Eric Garner
FWIW, if you're looking for a cheap, very capable AVR dev board. i've had very good success with the Teensy. You can use AVR-GCC or assembler but it has an Arduino compatibility layer if thats your thing. http://pjrc.com/teensy/index.html they're cheap and easy to work with, US made, and have

Re: [time-nuts] FW: E5500 phase noise test set

2010-12-15 Thread Richard Parrish
Sorry, I purchased the adapter for a system we were putting together. Agilent still has some for $500, a bit extravagant for my tastes. The interface board is made by Intelligent Instrumentation in AZ. The license for the 5500 is based on the serial number of the 70420A and is a lifetime license

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-15 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Jim: It may not be a good idea to adjust the watch so that the frequency is spot on at the time the adjustment is made. A better idea may be to wear the watch for a week and note the fractional time error then adjust the frequency so the offset matches the error. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke

[time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Dave M
I'm a retired electronics tech and computer programmer. I have a pretty decently equipped shop for almost all of my projects and experiments. However, my time and frequency equipment is a bit long in the tooth. I have a couple old HP 5328A counters (commercial version; not the military

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread J. L. Trantham, M. D.
I suspect that this question will lead to a discussion of Dual Mixers but as far as the counter question goes, I would recommend you consider an HP 5370B. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Dave M Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-15 Thread Javier Serrano
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Josef Kölbl josef.koe...@fh-deggendorf.dewrote: Bob, yes, building a TDC/TAC is not a problem. Thanks. Josef We have been asked to develop a TDC card in FMC (VITA 57) form factor. In principle we plan to use ACAM's TDC-GPX, but our specs are much more

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Don Latham
OK, time-nuts, here's the gauntlet. can't we generate a design for a PC-based FPGA or chip setup that would be generally useful as a counter? We've seen thorough discussions about trigger jitter, which IMHO is the fundamental problem. And isn't the PIC2 Time base from 10 MHz standard, all else

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Stan, W1LE
Hello Dave, Others will have better suggestions for the time interval measurement equipment. My suggestion is to consider the Prologix GPIB to USB adapter for ~150$ brand new stock. I wasted some time with a NI controller and an older HP adapter before I got the Prologix. I never looked

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Dave, On 12/15/2010 08:55 PM, Dave M wrote: I'm a retired electronics tech and computer programmer. I have a pretty decently equipped shop for almost all of my projects and experiments. However, my time and frequency equipment is a bit long in the tooth. I have a couple old HP 5328A

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 12/15/2010 08:13 AM, Josef Kölbl wrote: Magnus, with regard to your questions: measurement rate = 1 kHz rms jitter = 10 ps linearity better 3 ps resolution of 1 ps is the minimum differential measurement which can be made (ie granularity). Thanks, this makes your requirements much clearer.

[time-nuts] Modulation Analyzer to measure Phase Noise ?

2010-12-15 Thread Roberto Barrios
Hi, How good can be a Modulation Analyzer (such as the RS FAM, which I happen to have one) for measuring phase noise? Since it measures phase modulation, it should be able to somehow measure phase noise, right?. Assuming it is using a low noise reference, how useful is it for roughly

Re: [time-nuts] Adjusting accuracy of a Casio G-Shock watch

2010-12-15 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Hi Brooke, I've adjusted the watch as best I can within the limitations of the trimmer. The waveform was drifting 10 microseconds (slow) in about 20 seconds and so this should come out to 1 second in 23 days. I have now set the watch accurately and will follow it's progress. I plan to see how

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-15 Thread Javier Serrano
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: ... http://www.ohwr.org/projects/fmc-tdc/wiki Hmm. How do you intend to discriminate short pulses? It needs to be done in a way that it does not significantly impairs on the timing measurement. The TDC

Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
Just finished editing 25 papers on process control for FDA (Food and Drug Administration) regulated industries, so here are a few reflexive neuron firings. The FDA requires that the user requirements be captured first, in a way that can be understood by both the user and the vendor of the

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Mark Spencer
I just went thru a similar process and recently acquired a HP 5370B (my best prior counter was also a HP 5328.)  I pondered some of the other choices such as the HP 5334 but decided to jump ahead to the HP 5370B.   Also thanks again for the advice from members of the list and I found lost of

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Eric Garner
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Bruce Lane kyr...@bluefeathertech.com wrote:        . I'll be learning both C and AVR assembler as I go along, but the way I learn best is to actually DO something with programming ... I agree with the last part. Learn by doing some real project. But no

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Eric Garner
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Re: [time-nuts] TAC/TDC

2010-12-15 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: On 12/15/2010 08:13 AM, Josef Kölbl wrote: Magnus, with regard to your questions: measurement rate = 1 kHz rms jitter = 10 ps linearity better 3 ps resolution of 1 ps is the minimum differential measurement which can be made (ie granularity). Thanks, this makes your

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Chris Albertson
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Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Dave M
I've seen several posts that mention the 5370 counter. Certainly looks like a capable instrument. I'll be on the lookout for one that is in reasonably good condition and WORKS. I downloaded the NIST pub that you mentioned, and with the cold days and colder nights, I'll have lots of time to

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B with Arduino

2010-12-15 Thread Bruce Lane
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Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Jim Palfreyman
I asked the same question of this list a number of years back, took a few different routes and ended up with precisely what has been suggested here: HP 5370B Prologix GPIB-USB And an HP 3325B function generator to round it all out nicely. Also, if ever asked by the financial controller *why* you

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-15 Thread Don Latham
Dave: the Prologix interface can be used as an rs232 device. In that way, a robot basic program can be written to control GPIB devices. I like Robot Basic because it is has no connections to .net or any of the other microsoft stuff, AFIK uses no Registry either.. I put the whole package in a