Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Eric Garner
My recollection is that the other list was formed to keep the S/N ratio of this list up. -Eric Sent from my Banana jr (tm) Mobile Device On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Tijd Dingen wrote: > "The discussion seems to want to take place here however. :)" > > I would say go with the flow. If the di

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Tijd Dingen
"The discussion seems to want to take place here however. :)" I would say go with the flow. If the discussion is happening here and "not there", keep it here for now. When the project has gained momentum you can always decide to go off-list again. The analog I/O ranges from "too easy" to "trick

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Bob Bownes
Yes, it's still active. I've created a mailing list and google group just for the counter project. opencoun...@googlegroups.com to keep the counter project from going out to all 800 time-nuts. The discussion seems to want to take place here however. :) I've been trying _not_ to be the lead of the

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Don Latham
I looked over the Digilent site again, and I have to agree. There is a lot of information available, and the textbooks available look interesting as well. If I get really turned on, I may buy a board and book. Don Tijd Dingen > I'd like to second John's suggestion to go with the Nexys2. As far as

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Tijd Dingen
On that note, does anyone know if this counter project is still active? Some time ago I asked about this, but never got a reply. Maybe the e-mail got eaten by a spam filter, or maybe I just didn't ask nice enough, I don't know. ;-> If there is still an active project, I'd be interested. If not, I

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Tijd Dingen
I'd like to second John's suggestion to go with the Nexys2. As far as I'm concerned it has pretty good value for money. Regarding the standalone use, it has a configuration prom that you can use. That way it will automatically load your design on powerup, without needing a programmer every time.

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Don Latham
They look interesting, Tristan. Gee, nobody's "in charge" of this, I'm not sure it's even a project at this point, and AFIK there's no out of turn :-). I too like the Arduino, in fact I've settled on them or the Propeller for projects if I can, so the boards you propose may work just fine. Don Tri

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Tristan Steele
Hi Don, At the risk of speaking out of turn, and not knowing too much about this project (I'm new here!) have you considered something like these boards: http://www.gadgetfactory.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1&zenid=d282dce6c5b0acfe45c1377315b2734c They use the Spartan 3E chips, like alot

Re: [time-nuts] Distributed DDS

2011-01-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 30/01/11 23:08, ehydra wrote: I'm not sure if I overview the problem correctly. Hm, why not run the cable back and measure the round time? Half this time und you know the delay of one way. Then you can shift this with a PLL away. A similar scheme is used in almost all modern PC clock distribu

Re: [time-nuts] Distributed DDS

2011-01-30 Thread ehydra
I'm not sure if I overview the problem correctly. Hm, why not run the cable back and measure the round time? Half this time und you know the delay of one way. Then you can shift this with a PLL away. A similar scheme is used in almost all modern PC clock distribution chips. A bunch of PLLs on

Re: [time-nuts] Temperature stability for Thunderbolt: results

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Bob Bownes wrote: > I solved the same problem today by putting the antenna in the skylight > dome in my 'office'. Between the heat loss and the dome shape the snow > pretty much stays off of the skylight. This is after I just had the > antenna laying on the roof, w

Re: [time-nuts] spur prediction DDS software

2011-01-30 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Bruce Griffiths wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: On 27/01/11 14:33, jimlux wrote: A problem with using a 2^(n-1) < N < 2^n is that the phase-sequence will run short compared to the usual binary bits taken from the top of the DDS, so this will needs to be handled. It tak

Re: [time-nuts] spur prediction DDS software

2011-01-30 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: On 27/01/11 14:33, jimlux wrote: On 1/27/11 5:17 AM, Luis Cupido wrote: Hi, Is there a DDS spur prediction software around ? Not generically.. There is a dissertation out there with some matlab code. I'll see if I can find a link Most of the

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Yes, boards and parts, please email me off list. Stanley Speaking of PICTIC II's. Great project, but I had originally decided not to go that route as list members were indicating that 5370Bs were to be picked up for 200 bucks. Not so in France I am afraid. I have not been able to find anythi

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standards for characterizing GPSDO's ?

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Mark Spencer wrote: > I've seen a number of references to the PICTIC II, are the circut boards still > avaliable ? I've been looking at doing the same thing The design files are on available and that's all you need. You send in the files and get three boards for

Re: [time-nuts] spur prediction DDS software

2011-01-30 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Magnus Danielson wrote: On 27/01/11 14:33, jimlux wrote: On 1/27/11 5:17 AM, Luis Cupido wrote: Hi, Is there a DDS spur prediction software around ? Not generically.. There is a dissertation out there with some matlab code. I'll see if I can find a link Most of the time what I do is write

[time-nuts] Efratom VRFS Manual (VXIbus Rubidium Frequency Standard)

2011-01-30 Thread Rob Kimberley
Just found one during the "clear out". Installation, and Operation, Programming, and Diagnostic Manual. Available for the cost of postage from UK. Let me know any interest off list, and I'll let you know costs (PayPal please). Thanks. Rob K ___

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standards for characterizing GPSDO's ?

2011-01-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 30/01/11 18:13, Mark Spencer wrote: Interesting thanks. Getting a Rubidium standard that is progamable makes sense. It's a rationalization which I've not seen anyone proposing but comes for free for certain choices of rubidiums. Comes at the cost of a serial line. The benefit is naturall

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standards for characterizing GPSDO's ?

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Spencer
Interesting thanks.   Getting a Rubidium standard that is progamable makes sense. I've seen a number of references to the PICTIC II, are the circut boards still avaliable ? Best regards Mark Spencer - Original Message From: Magnus Danielson To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sat, January 2

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Don Latham
Seems right, John. For just a little more, the other units you recommended might be better. Still a lot of programming work to do, but implementing a simple counter/period measurement might not be too bad. I've never programmed an FPGA, so have no idea of the practicalities of really accomplishing

Re: [time-nuts] Distributed DDS

2011-01-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 27/01/11 11:15, Javier Serrano wrote: Dear nuts, Triggered by Ulrich's very interesting thread on nasty DDS features, I would like to submit for comments an idea for an application of DDS technology which hopefully does not suffer from them. We have a need at CERN to distribute RF signals (th

Re: [time-nuts] spur prediction DDS software

2011-01-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 27/01/11 14:33, jimlux wrote: On 1/27/11 5:17 AM, Luis Cupido wrote: Hi, Is there a DDS spur prediction software around ? Not generically.. There is a dissertation out there with some matlab code. I'll see if I can find a link Most of the time what I do is write a little program in matla

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Rex
On 1/30/2011 12:33 AM, cook michael wrote: as list members were indicating that 5370Bs were to be picked up for 200 bucks. Not so in France I am afraid. I have not been able to find anything under 5 times that over here. I questioned that, relative to my experience. Miracles do happen, but

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread cook michael
Not that the decks are cleared for this project yet. Heck, my picII's aren't built or programmed. Speaking of PICTIC II's. Great project, but I had originally decided not to go that route as list members were indicating that 5370Bs were to be picked up for 200 bucks. Not so in France I am afr

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread John Miles
I think that's what it was called, yes. There was a console version and a GUI version, both closed-source. Hopefully they also provide a linkable library by now; that's what you'd want to ask about. The Xylo board I was looking at didn't have a large EEPROM attached to its USB chip, so the loade

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Don Latham
Would that be FPGAconf? It's still mentioned in the documentation and seems to be a kind of bitfile loader. There's no mention of a requirement to use it, but it may be necessary. Docs mention Altera or Xilinx packages and a c++ compiler as necessary. I just skimmed the document. Don > in business