Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread Hal Murray
michaelalomba...@comcast.net said: I'm trying to determine the first product that could automatically decode and display a digital time code. Digital time codes were added to WWV in 1960 and WWVB in 1965. This was before they were added to any satellite signals, or before they were added

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A Comm timeout

2011-02-22 Thread Maxima Hirokazu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Thanks for the reply. The mail I sent didnt come back on the mailing list, and thought there was an error. I'm sorry for the annoying repeating mails. Have you just tried using a terminal program to connect to the box to see if that also times

[time-nuts] HQ 5370B manual available

2011-02-22 Thread Roberto Barrios
Hello, I’ve just finished the 5370B manual. With high quality scans, navigable Table of Contents, text search and single-page schematics. It is ready for download here: http://www.rbarrios.com/manuals http://www.rbarrios.com/manuals I’ve also uploaded it to KO4BB’s site, I assume

Re: [time-nuts] HQ 5370B manual available

2011-02-22 Thread John Miles
Nice scan, thanks! Same edition as David Kirkby's earlier scan, but with full-page foldouts. This one goes on the iPad for sure. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]On Behalf Of Roberto Barrios Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply commercial option

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Atkinson
One commercial linear power supply that works well for the T-bolt is Power one's HTAA-16W. This is a 16W triple output 5V 2A +12V (or 15) 0.4A -12V 0.4A unit. While 0.4 is under the warm up rating for the T-bolt it's OK for running. The fact that we are well under running it on +5V and -12V

Re: [time-nuts] Z3815A Comm timeout

2011-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi My Z3815A works fine (for weeks and weeks) with the Z8xx program. Bob On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:58 AM, Maxima Hirokazu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Thanks for the reply. The mail I sent didnt come back on the mailing list, and thought there was an error.

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread jimlux
On 2/21/11 10:12 PM, Michael Lombardi wrote: I'm trying to determine the first product that could automatically decode and display a digital time code. Digital time codes were added to WWV in 1960 and WWVB in 1965. This was before they were added to any satellite signals, or before they were

[time-nuts] M12M Sensitivity

2011-02-22 Thread Martyn Smith
Hi, I'm looking for the sensitivity specification of the Synergy M12M GPS receiver. Has anyone data on this. I can't find it in any brochure or manual. Regards Steve ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] HQ 5370B manual available

2011-02-22 Thread J.D. Bakker
At 06:23 -0800 22-02-2011, Dan Rae wrote: Be aware that there are some odd errors in this manual that I pointed out when I was working on mine a while ago, but it may have been on the -hp- list... That would be in http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hp_agilent_equipment/message/17686 and

[time-nuts] Info on CTS-10 WWV clock board

2011-02-22 Thread Russ Hummel
Hi folks, I am new to the group and am looking to see if anyone is familiar with a WWV receiver board made by Coordinated Time Link Co in Santa Clara CA in the middle 1990s. It is a model CTS-10 and is a ISA board for a PC that receives WWV , decodes the time signal and sets the clock on

Re: [time-nuts] M12M Sensitivity

2011-02-22 Thread Achim Vollhardt
Hi Steve, as the manual 'asks' for an active antenna with at least 10dB external gain, I would not expect the M12M to be too sensitive.. but as long as you do have an active external antenna, it should not matter much. I have here an M12M running in parallel with a TBolt fed by a common

Re: [time-nuts] HQ 5370B manual available

2011-02-22 Thread Dan Rae
On 2/22/2011 7:42 AM, J.D. Bakker wrote: At 06:23 -0800 22-02-2011, Dan Rae wrote: Be aware that there are some odd errors in this manual that I pointed out when I was working on mine a while ago, but it may have been on the -hp- list... That would be in

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The power people have a tough time with RF based timing. Their equipment makes picking up anything below VHF difficult at the point of use. Their traditional solutions were more wire line oriented. GPS was the first RF system to really get them interested. There's a FCS paper on it from the

Re: [time-nuts] Rom Expansion for HP5370B

2011-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Well now that you are committed to the project, it's time for the wish list: 1) Make the beast easier to calibrate and keep in calibration. 2) Improve the accuracy. 100) Add cool features like Avar. The 5370 dates to a period when the idea of software based calibration was a bit out of the

[time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread michaelalombardi
Thanks very much for the replies so far. I should have been more clear. I am looking for the first radio controlled clock that received a digital time code from a radio transmitter. Not a telegraphic time code (those date back to around 1920), not a IRIG system, not a slave/master clock

Re: [time-nuts] HQ 5370B manual available

2011-02-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message bay146-ds7333cc389be80d00e9e94b2...@phx.gbl, Roberto Barrios write s: Beautiful job Roberto! Thanks a lot! Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I have to guess that if they were transmitting it in 1960, somebody else was receiving it in 1960. No money to fund it otherwise. Likely with a two box system, but pretty quickly a single box. I suspect that if you dig into it, NASA (or whom ever) was doing range time via RF in the mid

Re: [time-nuts] Rom Expansion for HP5370B

2011-02-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi! On 02/22/2011 06:29 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Well now that you are committed to the project, it's time for the wish list: 1) Make the beast easier to calibrate and keep in calibration. 2) Improve the accuracy. 100) Add cool features like Avar. The 5370 dates to a period when the idea of

Re: [time-nuts] M12M Sensitivity

2011-02-22 Thread Art Sepin
Steve, The short answer to the question of M12M GPS receiver sensitivity is: Min acquisition signal level = -128 dBm (at module connector) Min track signal level = -135 dBm (at module connector) Max track signal level = -30 dBm (at module connector) The background is that the sensitivity

Re: [time-nuts] Rom Expansion for HP5370B

2011-02-22 Thread Bert, VE2ZAZ
I hope this can be designed to work on the 5370A as well! Thanks, Bert, VE2ZAZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Info on CTS-10 WWV clock board

2011-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
The three ideas below assumes your software is getting the time from the PC's clock and the WWV board is setting the PC's clock. If the software gets the time direct from the receiver board, then it's lilely time for new software. But assuming the more rational design where all you need is a

Re: [time-nuts] SRS PRS10 problem

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Watson
Hi, I have a ring-bound original paper copy PRS10 manual somewhere. Assuming I can find it, I can probably scan PDF the appropriate pages - the schematics are on fold out pages if I recall so it might be a bit of a jigsaw puzzle! Regards, Rob. On 18 February 2011 21:08, Henk

Re: [time-nuts] SRS PRS10 problem

2011-02-22 Thread J. Forster
Dave at ArtekMedia might be able to help out. He's good at large prints. Best, -John '== Hi, I have a ring-bound original paper copy PRS10 manual somewhere. Assuming I can find it, I can probably scan PDF the appropriate pages - the schematics are on fold out pages if I

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread EB4APL
Hi, NASA used this code for time tagging the analog tape instrumentation recordings. They also developed slower time codes to be used in strip chart recorders ( ie. Nasa 28 bit if my memory doesn't fail). Regards, Ignacio El 22/02/2011 21:12, Magnus Danielson escribió: Hi Jim! On

[time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread James Fournier
Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice instrument style enclosure to house a Trimble Thunderbolt and a matching Mean-Well power supply with a bit of room to spare for connectors and cabling? My goal is to package everything together into a proper looking instrument to stack on my bench.

Re: [time-nuts] PN sequence generation using GPS

2011-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: A PPS signal from a GPS would provide a nice way to get started, but it needs a correction for the speed-of-light delay.  I don't know if finding that delay would be easier or harder than traditional methods for getting

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread EWKehren
James I was strongly criticized in the past but again look at HP's half width cases like the HP 37203A, there are many instruments out there for next to nothing in that size case and it looks very professional. My Dual Mixer goes into one of those, and if you can not find one contact me

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
I believe they would both fit in a 1 RU rack cabinet. Bob On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:05 PM, James Fournier wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice instrument style enclosure to house a Trimble Thunderbolt and a matching Mean-Well power supply with a bit of room to spare for connectors

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread bownes
James, I used an old 1 u server case and it's accompanying power supply. The back panel was already punched for a db9. All I had to do was drill some holes for BNC output and sma for the antenna connector. The big win was the 2x16 backlit LCD panel on the front which I hooked up to a monitor

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
Look at Ten Tec's line of B Series cases. Very profesional look for about $50. http://www.tentec.com/?s=enclosures My preference is to gut an old DVD player and re-purpose the box. But if you want the look of a traditional instrument, that is what ten tec sells They are well known in the ham

Re: [time-nuts] PN sequence generation using GPS

2011-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
In the case of VHF, the link distance isn't all that far. Take your transmit clock and put a one shot after it. Put a pot on the one shot and adjust it for minimum noise on the RX signal. Very much like a fine tune knob. Low tech - yup. Ham type solution - yes indeed. Bob On Feb 22, 2011, at

Re: [time-nuts] SRS PRS10 problem

2011-02-22 Thread Pete Lancashire
totally agree, and you get two free scanned manuals in return. I sent him the CLIPs for a couple HP 7/MMS modules and I think his scan is better them my original. -pete A very satisfied customer On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:42 PM, J. Forster j...@quik.com wrote: Dave at ArtekMedia might be

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread jimlux
On 2/22/11 9:47 AM, michaelalomba...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks very much for the replies so far. I should have been more clear. I am looking for the first radio controlled clock that received a digital time code from a radio transmitter. Not a telegraphic time code (those date back to

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread jimlux
On 2/22/11 12:12 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Jim! On 02/22/2011 02:34 PM, jimlux wrote: On 2/21/11 10:12 PM, Michael Lombardi wrote: I'm trying to determine the first product that could automatically decode and display a digital time code. Digital time codes were added to WWV in 1960 and

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Time code was being used by the government for all sorts of exciting things, like recording A-bomb blasts. I'm sure the first variant was used on conventional fast spooled movie film. -Chuck Harris jimlux wrote: On 2/22/11 12:12 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Jim! On 02/22/2011 02:34 PM,

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Darlington
I've dealt with par-metal.com in the past. Extremely high quality, great prices, lead times that annoy me. I needed a 4U enclosure overnighted. They laughed at me. I ended up buying a Budd enclosure from Newark. They seem like a mom and pop shop that will do custom work including painting and

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for info about first true radio controlled clock

2011-02-22 Thread David J Taylor
From: michaelalombardi@ [] As far as I know, the first digital time code broadcast by radio was the 36-bit NASA code on WWV which began in 1960. [] Mike GBR and MSF history is mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_from_NPL 1927 and 1950 are mentioned as start dates for

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread shalimr9
http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/ Didier KO4BB --Original Message-- From: James Fournier Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: Time-Nuts ReplyTo: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt Sent: Feb 22, 2011 8:05 PM Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice

Re: [time-nuts] Enclosure for Thunderbolt

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Bert, Don't put that on the HP list ;-o I agree though. There are lots of DtoA converters and relay drivers out there that are unloved and un wanted. Just make sure that if you don't know that it's unwanted and common, check before you part it out. I prefer the older series cases and nearly