Re: [time-nuts] Coalition to Save GPS

2011-03-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/13/2011 08:33 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: The military is the one service that won't be affected by this interference. They run on a different band, and their modulation is more robust than the civilian side. Could you deliberate a bit? I suspect that military receivers use L1 C/A,

Re: [time-nuts] Coalition to Save GPS

2011-03-13 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Mahlon wrote: You're thinking it'll be like current cell phone technology, which it doesn't have to be. They probably don't even know themselves yet how they're going to do it, but they certainly have the resources to do it. The Lightsquared terrestrial network will be LTE, same as most

Re: [time-nuts] noise of a 5370

2011-03-13 Thread Jean-Louis Noel
Hi, From: Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com Measuring the jitter of the unit's own clock isn't particularly useful or interesting for anything other than checking for proper operation. I agree for the purpose, but the noise mesured is not only the clock noise. It's the sum of all noises. Not only

Re: [time-nuts] Coalition to Save GPS

2011-03-13 Thread cook michael
Le 13/03/2011 10:28, Charles P. Steinmetz a écrit : Mahlon wrote: The Lightsquared terrestrial network will be LTE, same as most carriers are migrating to. They will almost certainly use GPS timing receivers at the cell sites for network timing. and their timing receivers antenna will

Re: [time-nuts] Coalition to Save GPS

2011-03-13 Thread Chuck Harris
I'll quote this from a wiki, since it is already out in the open: Military (M-code) A major component of the modernization process is a new military signal. Called the Military code, or M-code, it was designed to

[time-nuts] Datum 9390 firmware?

2011-03-13 Thread Bruce Lane
Fellow clock-watchers, I've become the proud owner of a Datum 9390-56110 GPS standard with a rubidium oscillator. I was informed, by the seller, that the unit's firmware kind of lost its collective mind when confronted with the GPS epoch rollover. Would anyone happen to have a

[time-nuts] fts 4060

2011-03-13 Thread Dave Mallery
hello list! last friday being my birthday, i found myself at the albuquerque auction. there it was... so i brought the fts 4060 home and began reading... (many thanks to brooke clark) put it all back together and fired it up. now it has been running for many hours. no lock. the readings are

Re: [time-nuts] Coalition to Save GPS

2011-03-13 Thread J. Forster
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Coalition to Save GPS From:b...@lysator.liu.se ...I suspect that military receivers use L1 C/A, L1 P(Y) and L2 P(Y). This is the exact same signals civilian geodetic receivers has been using since about the Ashtech Z12 and its z-tracking. Once upon a time, all

Re: [time-nuts] Coalition to Save GPS

2011-03-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/14/2011 12:06 AM, J. Forster wrote: I don't know what portion of all the GPS receivers deployed by the DoD now have direct-P(Y)-acquisition capability. If they would be forced to shift in direct-P(Y) earlier if LightSquared caused them trouble, then it would hurt a bit, but I would

[time-nuts] FRS

2011-03-13 Thread EWKehren
On one of my older FRS I tightened the cover to much blowing in the process the TIP 31 and the 2N4021. Any idea where to get a 2N4021 or what would be a substitute. Thanks Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe,

Re: [time-nuts] FRS

2011-03-13 Thread paul swed
Bert Who knows what these2n4021s cost but they have a 800 number and 3 in stock http://chipstech.com/NATIONAL-SEMICONDUCTOR/2N4021/prod_2649.html http://chipstech.com/NATIONAL-SEMICONDUCTOR/2N4021/prod_2649.htmlregards Paul On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: On one of my

Re: [time-nuts] FRS

2011-03-13 Thread Mike S
At 07:30 PM 3/13/2011, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote... On one of my older FRS I tightened the cover to much blowing in the process the TIP 31 and the 2N4021. Any idea where to get a 2N4021 or what would be a substitute. I think it's a 2n4091, from the parts list and schematic. 2N4021 is a PNP

Re: [time-nuts] FRS

2011-03-13 Thread EWKehren
Thank you, yes it is a 2N4091, my fingers are getting bad. I think I am going to try a TIP122, I have plenty of TIP31C's, to much trouble and money for a single 2N4091 when you take into consideration the age of the unit and lamp voltage shows 6 volt. Bert Kehren In a message dated

[time-nuts] NPR On-The-Media story on GPS jamming

2011-03-13 Thread Hal Murray
http://www.onthemedia.org/episodes/2011/03/11 http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2011/03/11/06 They were talking to David Hambling who wrote the New Scientist article that I mentioned last week. He covered LORAN. He said it cost less than one GPS satellite, but it wasn't clear what costs