Re: [time-nuts] 60hz west coast electric grid gone berserk

2011-09-08 Thread Douglas Calvert
What software do you use for the monitoring? On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:34 PM, tom jones wrote: > My 60 hz clocks in las vegas gained 4minutes and 45 seconds approximately. > At 6pm pacific daylight time I ran grid monitoring program which gets time > updates from somewhere in washington state.  I

Re: [time-nuts] 60hz west coast electric grid gone berserk

2011-09-08 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Nothing happened here in Southern Arizona (Tucson) in spite of the new medical Marijuana laws !! 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- >From: Flemming Larsen >Sent: Sep 8, 2011 9:25 PM >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60hz west coast ele

Re: [time-nuts] 60hz west coast electric grid gone berserk

2011-09-08 Thread Flemming Larsen
Don't know if it is related, but 1.5 million people across Southern California, Arizona and in Mexico are reported to have lost power Thursday afternoon due to a "power grid disturbance" according to various news sources. -- FL Fra: tom jones Til: time-nuts@fe

[time-nuts] "Foolproof" cleanup PLL design for FRS-C Rb module

2011-09-08 Thread Yuri Ostry
Hello, Recently, I looked for some birthday gift for a friend of mine (a guy who is interested in SHF and weak-signal comms). Ocassionally I found my extra FRS-C with connector and decided that it is good gift idea. It was my mistake. ;) Since then he constantly asking quite advanced questions ab

[time-nuts] west coast did not lose and time I apoligise false alarm

2011-09-08 Thread tom jones
the grid frequency was quite fast from at least 6pm to 6:15 pm probably resulting in only a second or too of gain .. I am very sorry for my incorrect post saying the grid gained 4 min and 45 seconds. Not true I have a malfunction clock... ___ time-nut

[time-nuts] 60hz west coast electric grid gone berserk

2011-09-08 Thread tom jones
My 60 hz clocks in las vegas gained 4minutes and 45 seconds approximately. At 6pm pacific daylight time I ran grid monitoring program which gets time updates from somewhere in washington state. It showed the grid frequency at 60.06 hz.. the grid was at 60.06 from 6:00 to 6:15 and mostly likely m

[time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Arthur Dent
I have the Dover paperback (2nd revised edition, 1999, monograph 155) of 'From Sundials to Atomic Clocks' that I bought for the list price of $12.95 online. -Arthur ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.feb

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Alan Melia
It is a big file (136 pages) and I had several hangs on it but eventually got a copy. I guess all the members were downloading at the same time :-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: "Neville Michie" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, Septembe

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Neville Michie
Thanks Randall, It downloaded from you OK, I too could not get it directly in Sydney. cheers, Neville Michie On 09/09/2011, at 8:32 AM, Randall Prentice wrote: Have uploaded a copy in NZ. http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf Couldn't download off TelstraClear, had to use Actrix links

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Tristan Steele
Hi Randall, Thanks for that! It finally worked. Tristan On 09/09/2011, at 8:32, Randall Prentice wrote: > Have uploaded a copy in NZ. > > http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf > > Couldn't download off TelstraClear, had to use Actrix links (DNS didn't > resolve properly). > > Regards >

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread mike cook
Le 09/09/2011 00:05, Tristan Steele a écrit : Yep, I can't get it either - and I am also in Australia, so I think there might be something in that. Is there any chance someone could mirror it on a server accessible from Down Under. :-) Thanks! Tristan try me - might work http://gluon.s

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Randall Prentice
Have uploaded a copy in NZ. http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf Couldn't download off TelstraClear, had to use Actrix links (DNS didn't resolve properly). Regards Randall ZL2RJP -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ke

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread WB6BNQ
Ken, I just checked it and it worked fine. It is a rather big PDF of 306 pages. Using OPERA, it took a while to download with no indication that it was doing it or when it actually started to download. But, finally it arrived. So maybe you did not wait long enough for the "*.gov" computer t

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, it works for me too. Unfortunately the .PDF has nice but shaded 'asides'. The last, for example, is unreadable. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:31 PM, mike cook wrote: > Le 08/09/2011 23:03, Ken , VK7KRJ a écrit : > > Is anyone else having trouble with this url? >> I've been trying it since the

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Tristan Steele
Yep, I can't get it either - and I am also in Australia, so I think there might be something in that. Is there any chance someone could mirror it on a server accessible from Down Under. :-) Thanks! Tristan On 09/09/2011, at 7:31, mike cook wrote: > Le 08/09/2011 23:03, Ken , VK7KRJ a écri

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread mike cook
Le 08/09/2011 23:03, Ken , VK7KRJ a écrit : Is anyone else having trouble with this url? I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out waiting for a reply. I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No problem with the nist site direct, but no go wi

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2011-09-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <2018179068-1315497656-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1777 865052-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry>, li...@lazygranch.com writes: >I'm not sure EG&G ever pushed the button on any nuke. They made >the neutron generator and handled the instrumentation. Read the book: They pushed the b

Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Ken , VK7KRJ
Is anyone else having trouble with this url? I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out waiting for a reply. I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No problem with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist I have no trouble with .pdf's fr

Re: [time-nuts] Allan deviation vs standard deviation

2011-09-08 Thread Magnus Danielson
Dear Rick, On 08/09/11 01:16, Rick Karlquist wrote: I was playing with an Agilent 53132 counter, and noticed that it measures "standard deviation" but doesn't seem to offer what everyone really wants, ie, Allan deviation. According to the textbooks, standard deviation won't work for oscillators

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2011-09-08 Thread lists
I would say the NTS (DOE) ran the tests. EG&G recorded the event. Every test destroyed lots of expensive stuff. Good for EG&G sales. I've been in CP-1. Lots of buttons. ;-) But getting back to the original question, I wonder if some EG&G parts were just OEMd for the company. That is, parts wi

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2011-09-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi They ran the tests for the vast majority of the US atomic testing. Bob Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2011, at 12:00 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > I'm not sure EG&G ever pushed the button on any nuke. They made the neutron > generator and handled the instrumentation. > --Original M

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2011-09-08 Thread lists
I'm not sure EG&G ever pushed the button on any nuke. They made the neutron generator and handled the instrumentation. --Original Message-- From: Poul-Henning Kamp To: li...@lazygranch.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Looking for inform

[time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Marvin E. Gozum
An excellent summary, thanks, a worthy read. At 05:59 PM 9/7/2011, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:27:26 -0700 From: Mike Fahmie To: Subject: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20110907101956.0388f...@popper.lbl.gov> Conten

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2011-09-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <492361790-1315494968-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-10287 56060-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry>, li...@lazygranch.com writes: EG&G pop-quiz: Which three US above ground detonations did EG&G not "push the button" on ? Answer can be found in this damn funny & interesting book: h

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2011-09-08 Thread lists
That is not the case. Various divisions of EG&G were sold to different companies. EG&G as a name lived on well after PE bought Reticon. The federal services division was held by URS out of San Francisco, but still operated as EG&G. They decently dissolved the EG&G name within URS, maybe two or

Re: [time-nuts] [?? Probable Spam] Comparison of two clocks

2011-09-08 Thread EWKehren
Ulrich, thanks for the info. Very comprehensive should be translated. Bert Kehren In a message dated 9/8/2011 4:52:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, df...@ulrich-bangert.de writes: Ilja, since I guess you read German I would like to draw your attention to my paper http://www.ulrich-bangert

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for information on EG&G TS-RFSRubidiumOscillator

2011-09-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Another way to look at it is that Perkin Elmer and EG&G merged. They decided that the Perkin Elmer name had less baggage and dropped the EG&G name. Bob On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:59 PM, gary wrote: > Perkin Elmer bought EGG Reticon. That is only one of many divisions. I used > to work there and

Re: [time-nuts] [?? Probable Spam] Comparison of two clocks

2011-09-08 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Ilja, since I guess you read German I would like to draw your attention to my paper http://www.ulrich-bangert.de/AMSAT-Journal.pdf which will have answers for a lot of questions that you currently seem to tackle with. Best regards Ulrich > -Ursprungliche Nachricht- > Von: time-nuts-bou