Re: [time-nuts] Help with HAMEG HM8123

2011-12-11 Thread K. Szeker
Hi all, Hello Dani, sorry, but you cannot find some documentations, with schematics, over more newer Hameg equipments, in all cases not from Hameg! :-( Its practically a illusion a real problem... K. 2011/12/8 Daniel Mendes dmend...@gmail.com Maybe i´m blind but at the Hameg site I can only

[time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Steve Byan
A while back I picked up a couple of what Fair Radio was calling data line filters. They have a six-digit Nixie time display (hours, minutes, seconds) and apparently decode and display some kind of analog time code (IRIG, maybe?). It was made sometime in the early 70's; it's wire-wrapped with

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Are they that good?

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Smither
Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you dig into the circuit, the resolution of the DDS is indeed 7x10^-13 per LSB. Bob Thanks for the confirmation. On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Bob Smither wrote: Bob Smither wrote: snip My documentation states that the full range of adjustment is: 7f ff ff ff =

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Jean-Louis Noel
Hi, From: Steve Byan steveb...@verizon.net NSN 6625003684180 == NSN: 6625-00-368-4180 INDICATOR, DIGITAL D Part No: 0N194800 Price Range: n/a Delivery Range: n/a Mfr/OEM/Agencies: JOINT ELECTRONICS TYPE DESIGNATION SYSTEM, NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY == Bye, Jean-Louis

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Maybe you could call them up and ask for information on the system they went with….:)… Sounds like a great way to wind up on a no fly list. Bob On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Jean-Louis Noel wrote: Hi, From: Steve Byan steveb...@verizon.net NSN 6625003684180 == NSN:

[time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread ed breya
I doubt that you will ever find a manual or schematics, but you should be able to decipher enough of the circuitry to figure out how to fire it up and talk to it. The digits should be arranged in either a counter or individually addressable. If it's a counter, you should be able to find a 1

[time-nuts] Subs for obsolete chips in pictic

2011-12-11 Thread Chris Albertson
Looking at the picric II schematic. Trying to decide on the bet substitute parts for some obsolete parts. It uses a few 74ACxxx locic family parts that are no longer made. I think the 74H or 74F series should work What do you think? I may have to adapt an SMD part. They have to work on

[time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread ed breya
I looked at your first post again and noticed there were apparently lots of TTL circuitry, so it could be an IRIG code receiver, and you should be able talk to it. If you don't have a source readily available, you may be able to fool it into responding a little to gibberish applied from a

Re: [time-nuts] Subs for obsolete chips in pictic

2011-12-11 Thread Azelio Boriani
Better use 74HC or 74HCT parts, the 74F should be TTL FAST parts that require high input current to be driven correctly. On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.comwrote: Looking at the picric II schematic. Trying to decide on the bet substitute parts for some

Re: [time-nuts] Subs for obsolete chips in pictic

2011-12-11 Thread Stanley
The 74AC175 can not be subituted as the circuit needs the higher voltage output, contact me off list if you need a few parts, or use the surface mount PC board as these parts are still around. See options here : http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:pictic Stanley

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
Fascinating. I also have one of these with slight differences, but it does have a Fort Meade tag. Bought it from a guy on the BoatAnchors list in Atlanta in the dim past. The HTID number is H9823180065821, NSN 664500DISPLAY, User ID STWA104 The rotary switch adds a 160 KHz position. The two

[time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
This was talked about several years ago, but did anyone get a fully functional design running using electromagnets to synch at one or both ends of the travel? In the meantime I am using a sensor to measure the time period of the pendulum for this particular new grandmother wall clock and from

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread lists
I did the NSA museum tour too. Well worth the trip. I got a CIA polo shirt at the employee gift shop. Yeah, where do you wear it? I put it on for one of those 9/11 Conspiracy events. Do you work for the CIA? No, I just wear their shirts. -Original Message- From: Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Neville Michie
There have been several (dont ask me for references) schemes for synchronising observatory clocks. The problem was often complicated by the pendulums running in a vacuum or reduced pressure and thus being hard to adjust. The type I remember best was a weak electromagnet under the bob that

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Tom Curlee
Check the Scientific American Amateur Scientist index for clocks here:  http://amasci.com/amateur/sciamdx.html#52-CC  It looks like the September 1974 issue has the article on using discrete cmos logic to synchronize a pendulum clock to a quartz crystal. Tom  WB6UZZ --- On Sun, 12/11/11,

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Don Latham
Try: http://www.bmumford.com/clocks/hj/hj0199.html and similar stuff found by googling driving pendulum clock Lots of food for thought. Mumford has put some thought into it. A lot depends on why you want to drive the thing; e.g. measuring perturbations in the gravitational field, a sensitive

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread J. Forster
I think I've seen IRIG Time Code SW for the PC that uses a sound card, but I forget where. The various IRIG formats are well dovumented. And yes, Time Code readers were used with high and low speed searches on IRIG tape recorders. You set Start and Stop points and the tape would Play, Stop,

[time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Connections and Features

2011-12-11 Thread alex mclaggan
Like many of you, I have seen these advertised on Ebay at good prices. Also, like many of you, I am confused about the 'programmability' and connections. Many of them advertise these connections:- PIN 1: INPUT +15V to +18V PIN 2: GROUND PIN 3: LOCK/UNLOCK (high = unlock) PIN 4: INPUT +5V PIN

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Connections and Features

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Smither
alex mclaggan wrote: Like many of you, I have seen these advertised on Ebay at good prices. Also, like many of you, I am confused about the 'programmability' and connections. Many of them advertise these connections:- PIN 1: INPUT +15V to +18V PIN 2: GROUND PIN 3: LOCK/UNLOCK (high = unlock)

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Jim Palfreyman
I acquired an old pendulum regulator from about the 30's-40's and it had an electromagnetic coil and a small magnet attached to the pendulum. Some old electronics passed a constant (but adjustable) current through the coil either pushing or pulling the pendulum slightly to make its amplitude

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Any chance of a photo? On 12 December 2011 04:26, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Maybe you could call them up and ask for information on the system they went with….:)… Sounds like a great way to wind up on a no fly list. Bob On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Jean-Louis Noel wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread gary
Try their reading room first. http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/foia/reading_room/index.shtml If there is no information in the reading room, do a FOIA. This information is always run past lawyers, not engineers. Don't be surprised if you get a call from whatever NSA calls their legal

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Tom Van Baak
I'm seriously toying with the idea of putting a small heater in the cabinet, so I can have an OCPO - oven controlled pendulum oscillator. Hi Jim, Yes, do it! No joke. It should work really well and be easy to do. Temperature is a useful lever in almost all clocks. Also consider a 1 Hz speed

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Steve Byan
On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote: Fascinating. I also have one of these with slight differences, but it does have a Fort Meade tag. Bought it from a guy on the BoatAnchors list in Atlanta in the dim past. The HTID number is H9823180065821, NSN 664500DISPLAY, User ID STWA104

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Steve Byan
On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:25 PM, J. Forster wrote: I think I've seen IRIG Time Code SW for the PC that uses a sound card, but I forget where. http://www.dolben.org/IRIG.php Best regards, -Steve -- Steve Byan steveb...@me.com Littleton, MA 01460

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Steve Byan
On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Jim Palfreyman wrote: Any chance of a photo? http://www.gull.us/misc/nixie/dlf-front.jpg It's not mine, but it looks the same except that the yellow sticker is on the side of mine rather than the front. Best regards, -Steve -- Steve Byan steveb...@me.com

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Connections and Features

2011-12-11 Thread EWKehren
Sorry I ever started this. In the past the FE5680's started out with a 50.255 MHz XTAL, some time in the 2002 2003 timeframe they switched to 60 MHz using a DDS in the loop. All of these units can only be stepped in 7 E-13 steps limited by the resolution of the DDS. Having followed all the

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Connections and Features

2011-12-11 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 11/12/2011 23:01:14 GMT Standard Time, smit...@c-c-i.com writes: Can anyone tell me if they ALL have the MAX level shifter/driver chip fitted, even though it may not be connected to the connector ? I don't want full programmability, just 10 MHz frequency correction.

[time-nuts] gravity controlled pendulumn clock?

2011-12-11 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/11/11 4:04 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: GCPC -- gravity controlled pendulum clock (elevation) intriguing. From your parenthetical remark, I'm assuming you move the whole assembly up and down to adjust the speed? I was thinking about a huge mass that moves around? let's see.. period is

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread John Allen
Your timing is good; I'm writing a HSN article right now that touches on all the levers: Hi Tom - what is HSN? John K1AE ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Joe Leikhim
You could put two metal tabs on the pendulum arm to be influenced by two proportionally biased electromagnets. A ferrous one to speed up the arm and a non-ferrous one to slow down the arm using eddy current. -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
Thanks guys. Got the info I had been looking for. This group is a great resource! Only purpose for this project is so that the Westminster clock chimes at the same exact moment at the GPS driven UTC LED display in the lab shows the quarter hour. Why Why not! :- ) -Brian, WA1ZMS

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread J. Forster
Maybe something like a Datum or AstroData. The reverse code switch is for reading tapes backwards. It looks like a modified standard product. It does not appear to interface w/ a tape search controller. At a guess it's mid 1960s to mid 1970s, to go w/ something like an Ampex FR1800 or similar

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/11/11 5:53 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote: Thanks guys. Got the info I had been looking for. This group is a great resource! Only purpose for this project is so that the Westminster clock chimes at the same exact moment at the GPS driven UTC LED display in the lab shows the quarter hour.

Re: [time-nuts] synch for pendulum clock....

2011-12-11 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
Jim- As soon as I hit the send icon, I knew I should have been more specific! :-) How about this...when I'm in the ham shack and I hear the clock down the hall (approx. 10mtrs away) chime, I'd like to be able to glance up at the large LED display at the top of one of the test equipment racks

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread paul swed
It was just on the thread a month ago. nematime $15 donation. I have used it and it worked well. On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: I think I've seen IRIG Time Code SW for the PC that uses a sound card, but I forget where. The various IRIG formats are well

Re: [time-nuts] looking for data on time code display

2011-12-11 Thread Morris Odell
I had hoped the frequencies listed on the controls might trigger some association in someone who's knowledgable about time-codes. 250 Hz doesn't seem to be a legal IRIG time-code frequency, although 1 kHz is. I'd try feeding it with various frequencies as others have suggested and see what

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb: Connections and Features

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Smither
gandal...@aol.com wrote: snip The FEI part number you are looking for is 217400-30352-1, it is often clearly visible in the auction photos and can be seen in at least one of the photos in the above link. I'm sure all will do what you ask but the biggest problem I found was actually