On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:48:58 + (UTC)
cfo wrote:
> Have you tried here ?
> http://www.batronix.com/shop/index.html
Nope, i haven't. These prices look much more sane!
Thanks a lot!
Attila Kinali
--
The trouble with you, Shev, is you don't say anything until you've saved
up a
IMO, the Tek 7000s are just wonderful. Everything a scope should be,
especially if complemented by a Logic Analyzer.
The 5000s not so much.
-John
>>I also have Tek 7000 and 5000 series analog scopes, along with a older
>> Tek
>>digital (Oh! - am I becoming a collector? :-). These
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:38:52 -0500, Bob Smither
wrote:
>On 04/17/2012 06:38 AM, Robert Atkinson wrote:
>> I quite like the HP 546xx series 'scopes. An "analog like" interface but good
>> DSO facilities. My regular 'scope at home is a 54645D mixed signal. Ideal for
>> lower speed logic/anlog circu
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:56:18 +, shali...@gmail.com wrote:
>That's why the default mode for a DSO should always be "pulse detect" or
>whatever the manufacturer calls it, unless you know what you are doing. As far
>as I know, all DSOs have this or an equivalent mode where the ADC runs at full
At 03:19 PM 4/18/2012, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
The certificate "error" is because it's self-signed and not
commercial, which costs a chunk of change every year. We use SSL to
avoid sending passwords in the clear and not for ecommerce purposes,
so (apart from browsers complaining) there isn'
The certificate "error" is because it's self-signed and not commercial,
which costs a chunk of change every year. We use SSL to avoid sending
passwords in the clear and not for ecommerce purposes, so (apart from
browsers complaining) there isn't any need for a trusted certificate.
The alternat
Two rolls of U.S. dollar coins in a carry-on will drive the TSA X-ray
inspector crazy! I know. Ed WA6RZW
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From: Robert Atkinson [mailto:robert8...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:44
To: j...@quikus.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurem
Looked at the unsubscribe instruction link to see why Roy couldn't
unsubscribe,
IE 8 said there was a certificate error, unsafe to visit this site.
Overrode that, got the site with a red banner from IE 8 about the
certificate,
was told that this is a high signal to noise group.
Ironic, that, amid
Dear Time-Nuts,
is there anybody coming to 2012 EUROPEAN FREQUENCY AND TIME FORUM,
http://www.eftf2012.org/ (next week, Sweden)?
It would be nice to meet there live.
Greetings,
Marek
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:22:17 +0200, Attila Kinali wrote:
>
> Then again, the rigol scopes i found at the local representative cost
> only 20% less than a Tek or Agilent in the same BW/channel class...
> which is kind of unexpected.
>
> Attila Kinali
Have you tried here ?
Frequently fly with a spectrum analyzer it gets questions and a couple of trips
through X-ray and I have had a couple of requests to power it up
Most frequent question "Is that a EKG machine". Ans yes but for radios not
people
Scott
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:19 PM, "J. Forst
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:27:32 -0400, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
>
> It works well, but one thing that annoys me is a flicker on the screen
> at fast (less than a few microsecond) sweep speeds. I emailed Rigol US
> about it, but never had a response so don't know if it's normal or not.
> My Tek
In Boston, some flashing LEDs on a "T" shirt will get you nearly machine
gunned.
-John
===
> Yes A nursing home owner did that to get a cooler with two gallons of
> hydrogen peroxide on board. It leaked and set fire to the luggage. The
> aircraft got back OK but a couple of luggage
Yes A nursing home owner did that to get a cooler with two gallons of hydrogen
peroxide on board. It leaked and set fire to the luggage. The aircraft got back
OK but a couple of luggage handlers got chemical burns.
Security has some advantages.
If you really want to get locked up, try wrapping
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That's another reason you want to use a Tek 600 series (or other) display
for X-Y work. The axes are identical and the Z axis has high BW.
-John
===
> One issue with X-Y mode on analog scopes is the different bandwidth of the
> two signal paths. Do not expect to have amplitude or phase
One issue with X-Y mode on analog scopes is the different bandwidth of the two
signal paths. Do not expect to have amplitude or phase fidelity within the
vertical bandwidth. 1/10th of it is probably the best you can hope for.
In that regard, DSOs with all their quirks are more symmetrical since
More people, less room for toys!
:))
-John
> Where are you located? Maybe someone else could share the trip cost.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Gottlieb"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-n
Where are you located? Maybe someone else could share the trip cost.
Regards,
Tom
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From: "Peter Gottlieb"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 93, Issue 96
I've found it easier to just ship items rather tha
I've found it easier to just ship items rather than have to deal with the
inconsistency and hassle of TSA security. You never know what will give a
problem, even in checked luggage.
That is one reason I am driving to Dayton this year (a 12 hour trip) rather
than flying commercial. Besides, w
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:31:21 -0700
Jim Lux wrote:
> Example: the round pointed school scissors in my daughter's backpack
> getting on the plane in Rome? They were willing to let her take them,
> but we said, nope, just throw them away, because next stop is Zurich,
> and we KNOW that they won't
In the 'good old days', before deregulation and 9/11 you could get almost
anything onto a 'plane by giving a skycap $5.
I brought back USAF shipping crates full of wine, an OMEGA receiver, among
other things.
-John
===
> Have to agree about what I have carried on parts. When I get
Have to agree about what I have carried on parts. When I get to california
and shop in a few old haunts I end up with strange looking parts. I through
them in a clearer anti stat bag that I now bring along and send them
through the screening in clear site. Never have an issue an occasional ?
like w
On 4/18/12 6:56 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:28:17 -0400
Dan Kemppainen wrote:
Wouldn't get broken if you hand carried it. I've carried on similar
equipment when flying across the US. I'm guessing you may not have to
check it for an internationl flight...
Thanks to Home La
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:19:54 +0100
"David C. Partridge" wrote:
> Even wierder - there was a reply to your post at least 10 minutes BEFORE your
> post arrived.
That's normal. Please keep in mind that mail is:
* not real time
* not reliable
* not deterministic (at least if you don't have access t
Not time-nuts though Joe surely :-))
Alan
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From: "Joseph M Gwinn"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing parts of threads
The usual cause of causality problems is senders' mis-set local computer
clocks. The rest of the e
From the Sysadmin:
The server that febo.com runs on is getting a little long in the tooth,
and the amount of mail it processes never gets smaller -- remember that
time-nuts now has nearly 1200 members, and then think of the amount of
traffic the list sees every day. And, the machine does some
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:28:17 -0400
Dan Kemppainen wrote:
> Wouldn't get broken if you hand carried it. I've carried on similar
> equipment when flying across the US. I'm guessing you may not have to
> check it for an internationl flight...
Thanks to Home Land Security, the rules on what you ma
That's why the default mode for a DSO should always be "pulse detect" or
whatever the manufacturer calls it, unless you know what you are doing. As far
as I know, all DSOs have this or an equivalent mode where the ADC runs at full
speed regardless of sweep speed, and the min and max readings bet
The disadvantage of the digital adjustment is that it's meant to be
"permanent", the MPU also modifies it's internal EEPROM cell that stores
the new value. Too many adjustments bear the risk of the used EEPROM
cell wearing out, which would be inevitable in a disciplining process,
and an unknown
Could be a loose connector Alan!!
Rob
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Melia
Sent: 18 April 2012 14:42
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing parts of threads
The ot
Dave,
That's another thing I get also.
I put that down to clock errors on PCs.
Question: should any Time Nut out there have a PC with a time error? Are we
not all running NTP locked to our various GPS boxes?
Comments welcome..
Rob
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [
The usual cause of causality problems is senders' mis-set local computer
clocks. The rest of the email system believes the header date and time.
Joe Gwinn
From: "David C. Partridge"
To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"
Date: 04/18/2012 09:22 AM
The other one I think I have seen is that on different routes out of the
forum .. some congested routes may classify the mail as "Bulk" and these
get lower priority or are even help until the path eases. I suspect this may
explain the timing that David saw. I often seem to get replies before
qu
On 04/17/2012 06:38 AM, Robert Atkinson wrote:
> I quite like the HP 546xx series 'scopes. An "analog like" interface but good
> DSO facilities. My regular 'scope at home is a 54645D mixed signal. Ideal for
> lower speed logic/anlog circuits and 8 bit PICs. Takes up a lot less space
> than a 16500x
I've suspected this but never really looked into it. I thought it was
just a break in the thread, but the subject didn't concern me enough
to really flush it out. I'll look more closely next time it appears
to happen. That said, I have not had a spam filter pick up any time
nuts posts.
Brent
O
Wouldn't get broken if you hand carried it. I've carried on similar
equipment when flying across the US. I'm guessing you may not have to
check it for an internationl flight...
Dan
On 4/18/2012 8:03 AM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote:
> Almost worth flying to NYC for the weekend from Switz
Dave,
At least I'm not alone!
Maybe John Ackerman could comment.
Rob
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of David C. Partridge
Sent: 18 April 2012 14:16
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re:
Hi Alan,
Yes, I have checked this and yes there were some posts (new names, which the
spam engine didn't recognise). However, the one I was looking at in
particular wasn't there.
I wanted to know if there is a known problem or if anyone else has noticed
the odd glitch.
Also I get some replies to
Even wierder - there was a reply to your post at least 10 minutes BEFORE your
post arrived.
Someone is messing with causality.
Dave
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: 18 April 2012 12:54
To: 'Discussio
You are not alone ...
No, it's not a Spam filter - I check Spam folders regularly and my ISP doesn't
pre-filter.
Dave
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: 18 April 2012 12:54
To: 'Discussion of precise t
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:01:14 +0100
"David J Taylor" wrote:
> > I see the Trimble Resolution SMT Timing GPS OEM board 66974-35 on a
> > well-known auction site from a well-known seller "fluke.i", at quite a
> > good price, and free UK post. Is it any good - as good it seems to be.
> > Any expe
I see the Trimble Resolution SMT Timing GPS OEM board 66974-35 on a
well-known auction site from a well-known seller "fluke.i", at quite a
good price, and free UK post. Is it any good - as good it seems to be.
Any experience?
[No replies, so second post. No comments from anyone?]
Thanks,
Da
XY quality:
Many DSO have had slow wfms/sec or update rates.
Its a reason Agilent touts its new fast rates in their new scopes.
Here's a test XY mode "youscope" test app on an analog, Agilent
Infiniivison and Rigol 1052e for comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxlCoKN4W7c
Mpts on time
Hi Rob
Have you checked in your SPAM folder on the webmail site ?? BT-Yahoo is very
aggressive sometimesI even find it classifies its own Group management
messages as spam occasionally !!
Alan G3NYK
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From: "Rob Kimberley"
To: "'Discussion of precise time and freq
Hi
Having carried fresh baked bread in the opposite direction and teletype
machines as luggage …. you probably can get away with it.
Bob
On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:58:10 -0700
> Said Jackson wrote:
>
>> Almost worth flying to NYC for the weeken
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:53:31 +0100
"Rob Kimberley" wrote:
> I don't know if it is just me, but I seem not to be getting all messages
> from Time Nuts. Quite often I'm seeing replies to a thread, and for the life
> of me I can't find the original post.
If the mails never arrive, it's most likely
I'm not using the analog input but the serial port, yes, this doesn't
improve the 1E-11 step but at least I skip the first A/D conversion. The
direct access to the C-field control seems necessary but I like to have my
stuff in the original state. My LPFRS is very rusty so I can drop my "keep
it ori
I don't know if it is just me, but I seem not to be getting all messages
from Time Nuts. Quite often I'm seeing replies to a thread, and for the life
of me I can't find the original post.
Comments anyone?
Rob Kimberley
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:58:10 -0700
Said Jackson wrote:
> Almost worth flying to NYC for the weekend from Switzerland and checking in
> the scope as luggage on way back..
Yeah.. If i knew that i'd get a usable scope and would get it back in one
piece i probably would do that...
That would be the tougher part, as, with highest probability, the
external analog adjustment is first AD converted in the MPU (AIN4)
summed with the internally stored fine adjustment value, and then
applied to the C-Field correction, through an external DAC8800.
As both conversions are 8 bit, th
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