[time-nuts] For my whole life timezones have been weird

2012-11-02 Thread Sarah White
So, at or around 1981 (the year I was born) there was a cool concept. IBM was selling "personal computers" (IBM-PC compatible later became a thing) and by the time I was old enough to operate a modem, I had one myself. Life was good. Wonder if there is any sensible way to petition microsoft to fix

[time-nuts] [OT] BSD conference in Sunnyvale

2012-11-02 Thread gary
https://www.meetbsd.com/ Just a FYI for those on the list in the bay area. I had planned on going and still might, but I messed up my foot and should probably stay off it. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to htt

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer 5A & 5P PSU/battery question

2012-11-02 Thread lists
It has been my experience with nicad and NiMH, the higher the cell capacity, the shorter the battery life. Not for cycles, but in terms of years. I designed a charger chip for bridging applications. Bridging batteries are used to maintain a system while you swap battery packs. The batteries used

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread shalimr9
No need to encrypt your emails, it makes them hard to read on some devices Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -Original Message- From: Volker Esper To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 8:47 AM Subject: [time-nuts] How to start a

Re: [time-nuts] HP-53132A Faded and flickering display

2012-11-02 Thread John Lofgren
<- snip -> Two possibilities: Cathode poisoning or bad tantalum caps. I'm not sure if "cathode poisoning" is really the correct term for this effect, but it's similar. There have been a number of tutorials out there about rejuvenating VF displays. <- snip -> It appears that the military par

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer 5A & 5P PSU/battery question

2012-11-02 Thread Scott McGrath
I'm lucky I have a local batteries plus so no shipping. They have a lot of stores and all of them can build packs Sent from my iPhone On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:21 PM, "J. L. Trantham" wrote: > I have a local shop that builds battery packs that turn out to be cheaper > than Batteries Plus since shi

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread Hal Murray
david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk said: > Yes, you send a mail with a new subject. Please don't CHANGE the subject of > a thread or topic, as that doesn't actually start a new topic. There are two mechanisms for splitting a pile of messages into threads. Some mail readers sort by the Subject field

Re: [time-nuts] HP-53132A Faded and flickering display

2012-11-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
Unless it is a bad tantalum capacitor, as suggested: in this case yes, it has to be fixed. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Edgardo Molina wrote: > Dear Azelio, > > Thank you. You are right regarding the GPIB operation but since I was > looking for a high resolution frequency counter as well for

Re: [time-nuts] HP-53132A Faded and flickering display

2012-11-02 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Azelio, Thank you. You are right regarding the GPIB operation but since I was looking for a high resolution frequency counter as well for a versatile basic instrument to start measuring with, I choose this frequency counter. Hunting for a better unit right now will not be a priority as th

Re: [time-nuts] HP-53132A Faded and flickering display

2012-11-02 Thread John Lofgren
Edgardo, Two possibilities: Cathode poisoning or bad tantalum caps. I'm not sure if "cathode poisoning" is really the correct term for this effect, but it's similar. There have been a number of tutorials out there about rejuvenating VF displays. The one I have direct experience with is bad c

Re: [time-nuts] HP-53132A Faded and flickering display

2012-11-02 Thread Tom Knox
The replacement display board is available for about $550. The display itself may be available if you could find the part number for about $125, but Agilent WILL NOT give the raw display part number out. I ran into this same problem with the 3458A and was finally able to find the number and ord

Re: [time-nuts] HP-53132A Faded and flickering display

2012-11-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
You will be using the counter much on the GPIB than looking to the display, so try to keep the unit untouched. Better to use it and think about another one, now that you have one, you are not in a hurry so you can select a better one. You can also hunt for an SR620 or a Wavecrest... 25pS (or less)

[time-nuts] HP-53132A Faded and flickering display

2012-11-02 Thread Edgardo Molina
Dear Group, Good morning! I just got my first HP-53132A frequency counter and Prologix GPIB-USB converter. Now I can do some measurements and I am excited about it. Everything looks promising. Condition of the instrument on the outside is like new, controls responsive and no fading in letterin

Re: [time-nuts] A counter for phase measures

2012-11-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you want Adev of < 1.0 x 10^-11 at a tau of 1 second, then a counter probably is not going to do it for you. To do a reasonable job on "time nut" grade stuff you probably want something with a floor of < 1.0 x 10^-13 at a tau of 1 second. You have several choices: 1) Forget about 1 second

Re: [time-nuts] A counter for phase measures

2012-11-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Volker, Universal counters like 53132A or SR620 or CNT-91 do quite well for making measurements of GPSDO. Over minutes or hours they easily measure down to the 1e-12, 1e-13, and 1e-14 level. But yes, for short averaging times the noise of the counter is probably greater than the instability

[time-nuts] A counter for phase measures

2012-11-02 Thread Volker Esper
Dear fellows, I'm searching for a counter that allows me to make automated measure series. Of course, Allan Deviation is an important thing to determine when experimenting with or developing GPSDOs (what I intend). So it seemed to be a nice thing to measure phase deviation with a counter (HP

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread Michael Perrett
*UNLESS *the subject changes. I get so sick of the title having nothing to do with the message. Sometimes a thread will completely change and have 20 or more "answers". Personally I would prefer a new thread if the subject changes. IMHO, Michael / K7HIL On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:20 AM, David C. Pa

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:20:08 - "David C. Partridge" wrote: > Yes, you send a mail with a new subject. Please don't CHANGE the subject of > a thread or topic, as that doesn't actually start a new topic. The trick is to start a new mail (press "Write" or "Compose") instead of replying to a mai

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread David C. Partridge
Yes, you send a mail with a new subject. Please don't CHANGE the subject of a thread or topic, as that doesn't actually start a new topic. I also suggest that you send email to the reflector as "Plain Text". HtH, David Partridge -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailt

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 November 2012 13:46, Volker Esper wrote: > Fellow time-nuts, > > I am new in this mailing list and a little bit unfamiliar with it, so I hope > I'm not doing something stupid. > > How do I start a new topic? Simply send a mail with a new subject? > > Thanks a lot > > Volker Yes, send an emai

Re: [time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread David Kirkby
On 2 November 2012 13:46, Volker Esper wrote: > Fellow time-nuts, > > I am new in this mailing list and a little bit unfamiliar with it, so I hope > I'm not doing something stupid. > > How do I start a new topic? Simply send a mail with a new subject? > > Thanks a lot > > Volker Yes, send an emai

[time-nuts] How to start a new topic

2012-11-02 Thread Volker Esper
Fellow time-nuts, I am new in this mailing list and a little bit unfamiliar with it, so I hope I'm not doing something stupid. How do I start a new topic? Simply send a mail with a new subject? Thanks a lot Volker smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature _

Re: [time-nuts] CIC GGER GPSDO

2012-11-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:35:33 -0600 Ed Palmer wrote: > Does anyone know what the story is regarding that site? There's a > wealth of hard-core Time-Nut information there, but after the first > level or two, all the links are dead. The main page (in Japanese) is at > http://etoysbox.jp. The E