Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 two frequency maxima

2012-11-28 Thread Volker Esper
I agree. Please, Paul, start a new thread, and we'll be there. Volker Am 28.11.2012 08:10, schrieb Hal Murray: You might get better answers by starting a new thread rather than hiding your question in an existing thread. (Use your New message button rather than Reply, and cut-paste the To

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 two frequency maxima

2012-11-28 Thread Volker Esper
...and I found a very interesting article on that topic: http://www.micrel.com/_PDF/App-Notes/clk/PAN1202291%20-%20AFM%20Period%20Jitter.pdf It's written by Eddy van Keulen (Micrel): Relation between Harmonics and Deterministic Jitter. His approach is the assumption, that frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-28 Thread Support HpW-Works.com
Hi Bruce, The equivalent phase noise (measured in dBc/Hz) is essentially independent of the sample size. The dBc/Hz normalization is based on this (also the sample rate). While the sample rate sample size = FFT Bin size (resolution or filter band width) is used to get the required

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-28 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Support HpW-Works.com wrote: Hi Bruce, The equivalent phase noise (measured in dBc/Hz) is essentially independent of the sample size. The dBc/Hz normalization is based on this (also the sample rate). While the sample rate sample size = FFT Bin size (resolution or filter band

[time-nuts] Stanford Research SR620

2012-11-28 Thread cdelect
Hi Everyone, I'm selling my SR620 and thought to offer it here first before the eBay. The only problem I know about is an error 3 on power up. This equates to the battery backed up RAM not holding its load. The battery checks good so it's probably the RAM chip itself. You can then select a

[time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Volker Esper
When looking at the PPS TI vs. time curve today I felt kind of appalled - a big incident peak (not an outlier) on the curve! See picture. What happened to my Z3805? Any idea? No entry in the error log, the staus log says 2012-11-28 10:01:30: The Smartclock Status has changed to LOC 2012-11-28

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Azelio Boriani
The reference is still the Rb? Then how you can tell which of the two is doing that... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Volker Esper ail...@t-online.de wrote: When looking at the PPS TI vs. time curve today I felt kind of appalled - a big incident peak (not an outlier) on the curve! See

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Azelio Boriani
Ops, I missed the EFC value... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.itwrote: The reference is still the Rb? Then how you can tell which of the two is doing that... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Volker Esper ail...@t-online.de wrote: When looking at the

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Volker Esper
Not Rb but OCXO vs GPS... Am 28.11.2012 22:47, schrieb Azelio Boriani: Ops, I missed the EFC value... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.itwrote: The reference is still the Rb? Then how you can tell which of the two is doing that... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012

[time-nuts] SR620 is sold!

2012-11-28 Thread cdelect
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[time-nuts] Termination talk

2012-11-28 Thread M. Simon
I was going to post an anecdote about termination to the list and then thought that the piece would make a great column. It did. My magazine featured it in one of its daily mailings. If you want to check it out: http://www.ecnmag.com/blogs/2012/11/long-lines-pcb Simon   Engineering is the art

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 two frequency maxima

2012-11-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The gotcha there is that most oscillators have a low pass filter on the output. There is an observable 5 MHz component, but the 15 MHz is much further down. The synthesis is useful. It's just tough to convince anybody it's correct when they can't see the 15 MHz. Bob On Nov 28, 2012, at

[time-nuts] Poor termination effects?

2012-11-28 Thread Rex
I live in the San Francisco bay area. You may recall that back in 1989 we had a big earthquake that did a lot of damage. The epicenter was near Loma Prieta, which became the name for this earthquake. That is about 60 miles south of San Francisco, yet a lot of the bad damage occurred there, at

Re: [time-nuts] Poor termination effects?

2012-11-28 Thread David
I am pretty sure you are right on the mark there. I made a habit of listening to the tone modulated seismic transmitters in southern California and with experience, they definitely sounded like you would expect if a source was reflecting off of various impedance discontinuities in the crust which

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Volker, please note that much of the clear text in the status information is generated by Z38XX itself to make it easier to read. 2012-11-28 10:01:40: The last Smartclock Status is undefined 2012-11-28 10:01:40: Starting with status LOCK for example means that Z38XX is unaware of the

Re: [time-nuts] Termination talk

2012-11-28 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Simon, ...which prefers to remain anonymous... sounds as if it were a group of criminals or so. Best regards Ulrich Bangert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von M. Simon Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2012