Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-07 Thread Joseph Gray
Don't leave us in suspense :-) What method did you decide to use? Joe Gray W5JG On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: > A week ago I asked about a 10 MHz to 16 MHz multiplier. Thanks very much for > the suggestions and interesting discussion. > >> What's the simplest way to genera

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-07 Thread Tom Van Baak
A week ago I asked about a 10 MHz to 16 MHz multiplier. Thanks very much for the suggestions and interesting discussion. > What's the simplest way to generate 16 MHz from 10 MHz? This > will be for clocking a microcontroller at 16 MHz given 10 MHz > (Cs/Rb/GPSDO). Low price and low parts count is

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-07 Thread Ed Breya
Actually, I was referring to an RC and Diode network in anticipation of the possible need for more signal shaping flexibility, depending on the signals and circuitry. The built-in oscillators are usually self-biased CMOS inverters intended to go with crystals, and usually a couple of small phas

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-07 Thread paul swed
Ed you are late to the dance. But do offer an additional piece of the puzzle. RCD I will guess is a RC differentiator. And your suggestion does get rid of a separate oscillator. It wasn't my post. But would guess you just jam the diff pulse into the osc amp in that the xtal feeds? Regards Paul WB8T

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz -> 16 MHz clock multiplier

2013-01-07 Thread Ed Breya
I'm kind of late to the party on this one, and don't want to reopen and send it off on a tangent. I agree with the injection-lock method, but just want to suggest that since most uPs and uCs have their own CMOS oscillator built in, the simplest solution would be to just use that as intended, wi

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:41:06 +0100 Attila Kinali wrote: > Eg. you can also try the OlinuXino from Olimex, which are damn cheap. > (and unlike the Raspberry Pi they are completely documented and you > don't need any binary only drivers). I haven't tried any of those yet > (didn't have the time), bu

Re: [time-nuts] matlab, python, etc.

2013-01-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The original spec called out "needs to run Matlab". If that's already a given, then CPU horsepower is the variable to optimize vs payroll hours. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: Monday, Janua

Re: [time-nuts] matlab, python, etc.

2013-01-07 Thread Chris Albertson
I think you have it backwards. The purpose of Matlab and things like it is NOT to save computer time. It is to have enginerring man hours. For example a problem can be coded in two hours in Matlib that would take me a week to code in C. But then when you run the software the C coded solution

Re: [time-nuts] matlab, python, etc.

2013-01-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It being lunch time, I got out my stopwatch. On my machine here, Matlab takes a bit over 30 seconds to load. FDATool takes another 30 seconds to load. Loading a saved session on a fairly simple FIR into FDATool adds a bit over a minute. If I tell it I want to load a fairly complex FIR that bum

Re: [time-nuts] matlab, python, etc.

2013-01-07 Thread Thomas S. Knutsen
An semester or two with linear algebra is an good start, but the homepage of matlab have an excelent learning section. No experience with Octave yet. MIT OCW (open courseware) have lectures on linear algebra, in addition to most of the other courses offered at MIT. BR. Thomas. 2013/1/7 Attila

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread cfo
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:25:59 -0800, Jim Lux wrote: > Consulting the hive mind.. > If you're building a standalone widget (e.g. something like an NTP > server we've been discussing, etc.) with an embedded PC, don't want to > fool with hardware designing, etc.; use off the shelf OSes (win and > Li

Re: [time-nuts] matlab, python, etc.

2013-01-07 Thread Chuck Harris
The tutorials that come as part of the octave documentation package are quite good. -Chuck Harris Attila Kinali wrote: On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:40:12 -0800 Jim Lux wrote: There's a whole lot of stuff that time-nuts do in terms of data analysis that is pretty quick and easy in Matlab (or Octave

Re: [time-nuts] matlab, python, etc.

2013-01-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:40:12 -0800 Jim Lux wrote: > There's a whole lot of stuff that time-nuts do in terms of data analysis > that is pretty quick and easy in Matlab (or Octave), especially for > "fooling around". I'm not wild about Matlab's data acquisition > capabilities, but then, I'm les

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:40:00 +0100 Alberto di Bene wrote: >I haven't used this, but from the specs it looks interesting ... >[1]http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code >=G135235611947 >73 Alberto I2PHD I hear a lot of talk about those boards, but i

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:11:59 -0800 Jim Lux wrote: > It's sort of the upscale version of the Arduino, PIC, MSP430 thing. I'm > looking for a building block that I can just drop in, hook up, and not > worry too much about. If you don't mind to be stuck on linux and *bsd, i would recomend the bea

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 1/7/2013 1:25 AM, Jim Lux wrote: If you're building a standalone widget (e.g. something like an NTP server we've been discussing, etc.) with an embedded PC, don't want to fool with hardware designing, etc.; use off the shelf OSes (win and Linux) and software (Matlab, Labview); have solid s

[time-nuts] matlab, python, etc.

2013-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/7/13 4:30 AM, Bob Camp wrote:> HI > > Well if you are getting it done in seconds on Matlab, then you likely don't need Matlab very badly. Around here a typical Matlab setup is indeed CPU bound for a *lot* longer than that during a normal work day. Two or three hours a day is not at all unu

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/6/13 9:26 PM, Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Precisely.. but I'd just as soon not be in the PC integration business, finding boards to plug into a mobo, etc. I was wondering what folks have used (or seen used) in this sort of usage model. Google for embedded PC and/or mini-

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
Take a look at the COM Express standard, designed for embedded x86 computing: http://www.picmg.org/v2internal/specifications2.cfm?thetype=One&thebusid=3 Additionally there is a huge amount of design support literature from Intel, Adlink, Ampro, Congatec, Kontron, Radisys, etc. COM Express boards

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/6/13 8:56 PM, gary wrote: There is an open source equivalent of Matlab called Octave. Yes..we use it too, and for anyone who uses Matlab, Octave is nice to have as well. For instance, we have a centralized license server for Matlab, and if you're incommunicado, you're stuck, but with Oct

Re: [time-nuts] JTAG dongle

2013-01-07 Thread Azelio Boriani
No, that is a clone of the Altera USBBlaster JTAG interface. Maybe there is around a suitable software that uses it as a generic JTAG interface. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:09 AM, M. Simon wrote: > 160912291115 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo

Re: [time-nuts] single board PCs

2013-01-07 Thread Bob Camp
HI Well if you are getting it done in seconds on Matlab, then you likely don't need Matlab very badly. Around here a typical Matlab setup is indeed CPU bound for a *lot* longer than that during a normal work day. Two or three hours a day is not at all unusual. Bob On Jan 6, 2013, at 11:21 P

Re: [time-nuts] Timing between two GPS PPS outputs.

2013-01-07 Thread David J Taylor
From: Gabs Ricalde [] Non-timing receivers could be unsuitable for your requirements, as some of us have discovered: http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html#oscillations [] === Gabs, The oscillations I reported are not due to the use of a navigation GPS receiver.

Re: [time-nuts] suggestions for free samples from AD

2013-01-07 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 06/01/2013 01:51, bownes wrote: Mini-circuits and Hittite are the notable exceptions. .. but Microcircuits do great giveaways (donation to charity) at the Dayton Hamvention. Mostly this is past date code product, but fine for homebrew. Stewart __

Re: [time-nuts] Inexpensive modular gps with 1pps

2013-01-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
David, Hal, Thank you very much for the pointers, and the hand-holding. I ordered a unit from Sure last month, which arrived last week. I used David's excellent instructions, and I am happy to report that the unit (cabled to a 1U Linux server, Debian testing) is working well (or so I think). nt