Re: [time-nuts] PTPv2 grandmaster with a Z3805A?

2013-08-22 Thread David Gravereaux
On 08/20/2013 01:51 PM, David Gravereaux wrote: > Also, and still back to my question, NTPd's control of the radio and PPS > signal wouldn't be using the same PPS kernel service would it? Answering my own question, the clock at /dev/ptp0 (on the NIC) is not the same as the realtime and needs to be

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread Dimitry Borzenko
Hello. You can try   Regards. On 21/08/13 23:48 , Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com sent: It's simple, just install and run "NTP" On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Rex Moncur wrote: > I am trying to lock a Windows XP computer to GPS time taking advantage of > both the N

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Albertson
Hit "send" a bit to soon. NTP will use the "best" reference clocks it finds. If that is GPS it will use that. It can also use other NTP servers. Typically people use those rather then getting their own GPS receiver. If the PC has a network connection you can likely get time to within a few mi

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread Dimitry Borzenko
Hello You can try Nmeatime: "www.visualgps.net/NMEATime/" Regards On 21/08/13 23:48 , Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com sent: It's simple, just install and run "NTP" On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Rex Moncur wrote: > I am trying to lock a Windows XP computer to GPS time

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread David J Taylor
Hello You can try Nmeatime: "www.visualgps.net/NMEATime/" Regards === Some advantages of the standard NTP software over NMEATime are listed here: http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html#why The OP's main problem is that his GPS receiver does not include PPS

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread Hal Murray
albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: > NTP will use the "best" reference clocks it finds. If that is GPS it will > use that. It can also use other NTP servers. Typically people use those > rather then getting their own GPS receiver. If the PC has a network > connection you can likely get time to w

[time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Cartoon :)

2013-08-22 Thread Hal Murray
Is anybody collecting time-nuts cartoons? http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/ -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread David J Taylor
From: Hal Murray I think you are missing the big picture. The OP wanted GPS time. NTP isn't setup to work with GPS time rather than UTC. [] = I think the OP wants "UTC time from a GPS" rather than "GPS time". But even if it /was/ GPS time, couldn't a set of si

Re: [time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Cartoon :)

2013-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20130822082311.30224406...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net>, Hal Mu rray writes: > >Is anybody collecting time-nuts cartoons? > >http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/ You mean like this: http://faculty.ucc.edu/business-greenbaum/images/NanosecZits.jpg -- Poul-Henning K

Re: [time-nuts] strange hp 5345A option C19

2013-08-22 Thread Luca Dal Passo
Thank you Nigel for your comment. Now I understand the reason why it may be useful to have this additional external link. In the counter is fitted an oscillator model 10544A (instead of a more known 10811), but I think that it is the original one because the date code of the serial number is a bit

[time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Cartoon :)

2013-08-22 Thread Hal Murray
p...@phk.freebsd.dk said: > You mean like this: > http://faculty.ucc.edu/business-greenbaum/images/NanosecZits.jpg Neat. Thanks. I remember that one from ages ago. Does anybody have a URL for the original/official cartoon? Or even just the name of that cartoon strip? -- These are my

Re: [time-nuts] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Cartoon :)

2013-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20130822101451.41cac406...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net>, Hal Mu rray writes: >> You mean like this: >> http://faculty.ucc.edu/business-greenbaum/images/NanosecZits.jpg > >Does anybody have a URL for the original/official cartoon? >Or even just the name of that cartoon strip?

Re: [time-nuts] Wawecrest DTS-2077 with TimeLab: was: Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-22 Thread Adrian
John, I'm using a NI GBIP-USB-B. The monitor feature does not time out, just the acquisition itself. Adrian John Miles schrieb: What GPIB adapter are you using? Does the 'Monitor' feature also time out, or just the acquisition itself? -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC -Original Message--

Re: [time-nuts] strange hp 5345A option C19

2013-08-22 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Luca The earlier 5345As were fitted with the 10544A oscillator, I've seen units with both that and the later 10811, so it could indeed be the original oscillator. If your 10544A has the PCB edge connector and is installed in the usual place then without seeing what's actually been done

Re: [time-nuts] Wawecrest DTS-2077 with TimeLab: was: Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-22 Thread John Miles
Hmm. Both the monitor window and acquisition loop use 5-second GPIB timeouts, so they should theoretically behave the same. What is the exact error message it's giving you during acquisition? Are you using double precision, and/or a large sample size relative to the sampling interval? I don't r

[time-nuts] Can someone post the @@Ea messages from a Motorola Oncore UT just powered up?

2013-08-22 Thread Alan Kamrowski II
Hi Everyone, I'm converting a Neo 6M GPS data stream to the Motorla Oncore UT data stream my RFTG expects. When first turned on the 6M doesn't have a 1pps signal yet, but does post NMEA messages which lack data are invalid. My question is, what does the binary data stream from a Motorola Onco

Re: [time-nuts] Wawecrest DTS-2077 with TimeLab: was: Wavecrest DTS-2077 Teardown

2013-08-22 Thread Adrian
John, The displayed error message is: 'Acquisition failed - trigger poll operation timed out - check addresses' I have tried both, single and double precision. The sampling rate was either determined automatically by running the monitor or edited manually. The latter appeared to work even worse

Re: [time-nuts] Can someone post the @@Ea messages from a Motorola Oncore UT just powered up?

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Bell
The board on it's own comes up in a mode that doesn't send anything until it's initialized. The RFTG-m-XO is responsible for setting up the board. This is what you see on the RX line after powerup: Note that this is from WinOncore - the real data doesn't have the (Rx) prefix and the data is in b

Re: [time-nuts] Can someone post the @@Ea messages from a Motorola Oncore UT just powered up?

2013-08-22 Thread Alan Kamrowski II
Hi Peter, Thank you for posting this - it is interesting. An @@Ea message only occurs once every 5 seconds? It seems odd that it comes up with 08-11-2017 at 12:00:00 My RFTGm-II-Rb doesn't seem to mind it isn't getting the @@En messages... Thanks, Alan -Original Message- From: time-

[time-nuts] Halcyon OFS-1 Circuit Diagram or Manual?

2013-08-22 Thread Mike Niven
I have acquired an old working 198kHz/162kHz off-air frequency standard that appears to be a Halcyon OFS1 circuit board mounted in a DIY case. I think this since it came with a sheet of alignment instructions from Halcyon which certainly ties up with the PCB layout but the case is not made to p

Re: [time-nuts] Can someone post the @@Ea messages from a Motorola Oncore UT just powered up?

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Bell
Yeah. I can't think of any reason that it would need the TRAIM messages - I thnk it's just being reported so that the official software can get access to the information. I'm not sure where the date is coming from - there is no battery on the UT+ in the RTFG-m-XO, and the cable I was using to get

Re: [time-nuts] Halcyon OFS-1 Circuit Diagram or Manual?

2013-08-22 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Mike I have had a Halcyon OFS-1 for 20 years and been looking for a manual/circuit during that time. Mine was bought from Halcyon and came with an A4 sheet of paper !Not alignment instructions!! I have been looking for detail ever since. I would certainly be interested to see a copy of th

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread Hal Murray
> I think the OP wants "UTC time from a GPS" rather than "GPS time". In case, it should be simple. > But even if it /was/ GPS time, couldn't a set of simple "fudge" statements > in the NTP configuration provide that? OK, you would need to change the > fudge lines when the GPS to UTC offset

[time-nuts] ***SPAM*** NPR Story on Atomic Clocks

2013-08-22 Thread Hal Murray
The World's Most Precise Clock Could Prove Einstein Wrong http://tinyurl.com/kuwhq47 http://www.npr.org/2013/08/22/214186448/the-worlds-most-precise-clock-could-pr ove-einstein-wrong Audio is 4:12 Nice picture. "This may look like a mad scientist's garage sale, but it's actually the most precise

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread Rex Moncur
Hi David Yes I did not make myself clear but I am looking for UTC time from a GPS. Thanks for all your references which I will work through and see how I go. Regards Rex VK7MO -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David J Tay

[time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-22 Thread Paul
As I patiently wait for my PRS10 to lock I'm curious if there's a limit beyond which I should assume the unit is faulty. It does produce abount 10MHz (+- .2 Hz) and the oven current dropped at what I assume is operating temperature. ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-22 Thread paul swed
I can't directly speak to a PRS 10 but from the hp 5065 to FE's and FRS 20-40 minutes would be typical. The newer smaller ones seem to be within 20 minutes. They are below .2 Hz when locked. Regards Paul WB8TSL/1 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Paul wrote: > As I patiently wait for my PRS10 to

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-22 Thread Said Jackson
Paul, i think 8 min is stated somewhere... Sent From iPhone On Aug 22, 2013, at 18:10, Paul wrote: > As I patiently wait for my PRS10 to lock I'm curious if there's a > limit beyond which I should assume the unit is faulty. > > It does produce abount 10MHz (+- .2 Hz) and the oven current dropp

Re: [time-nuts] Help in Locking a Windows Computer to GPS Time

2013-08-22 Thread David J Taylor
From: Hal Murray I think the OP wants "UTC time from a GPS" rather than "GPS time". In case, it should be simple. But even if it /was/ GPS time, couldn't a set of simple "fudge" statements in the NTP configuration provide that? OK, you would need to change the fudge lines when the GPS

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 time to lock

2013-08-22 Thread Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB)
Use the RbMon utility to monitor the unit's operation as it starts up to confirm that the lamp is started and the photocell is detecting a signal. Not long ago there were a number of units available for sale on Ebay that appeared to have a lamp problem. On 23/08/2013 02:10, Paul wrote: > As I pati