Re: [time-nuts] Beginner question - unexpected possible jitter in 1 PPS output of Motorola ONCORE UT+ module

2014-05-26 Thread Hal Murray
wb0...@yahoo.com said: > I built a small CMOS divider connected to the UT+ 1 PPS output... What do you mean by "CMOS"? Old 4000 series parts or HC or ... ? > Here's the problem: my counts vary significantly (+/- 1 or more) from > cycle to cycle, which is much higher than expected based on 5

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a particular OCXO....

2014-05-26 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
Boy you are spot on about what "damage" sales guys can do. The original OCXO spec is x10 better than the 16Hz I get with the DAC at the limit. Thanks. -Brian, WA1ZMS/4 iPhone > On May 26, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > > >> On May 26, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote: >>

[time-nuts] Beginner question - unexpected possible jitter in 1 PPS output of Motorola ONCORE UT+ module

2014-05-26 Thread David Feldman
I'm trying (in lieu of setting up a GPSDO) to use the 1 PPS output of a Motorola ONCORE UT+ module to do a one-time reference oscillator adjustment of my frequency counter (setting its reference oscillator which has a small trimmer). My counter has a "totalize" mode where it counts pulses fro

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a particular OCXO....

2014-05-26 Thread Joseph Gray
http://www.amtronix.com/ Joe Gray W5JG On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote: > I am trying to repair my HP-8920 RF Com test set since its internal > > 10MHz OCXO has aged way beyond the DAC EFC cal range. (There > > is no trimmer cap to allow adjustment.) > > > > The OCXO is 10

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a particular OCXO....

2014-05-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On May 26, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote: > My high-spec ULN Wenzels have trimmers. > I doubt that HP has put a trimmer OCOX into a new design since the 10811 was new. The Wentzel ULN’s are *not* high volume parts. > This this thing is 16Hz high at 10MHz so it's way off. 16 Hz

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a particular OCXO....

2014-05-26 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
My high-spec ULN Wenzels have trimmers. This this thing is 16Hz high at 10MHz so it's way off. Must be sudden failure. If I use an external ref the test set is fine. OK for lab use. But a pain when out working in the field on ham repeaters. It may be an OEM number. At work we noticed quite a

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a particular OCXO....

2014-05-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi On May 26, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote: > I am trying to repair my HP-8920 RF Com test set since its internal > > 10MHz OCXO has aged way beyond the DAC EFC cal range. How far out is it? > (There > > is no trimmer cap to allow adjustment.) Trimmer caps went out a long time ago

[time-nuts] Looking for a particular OCXO....

2014-05-26 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
I am trying to repair my HP-8920 RF Com test set since its internal 10MHz OCXO has aged way beyond the DAC EFC cal range. (There is no trimmer cap to allow adjustment.) The OCXO is 10MHz and is marked PTI XO1145. PTI no longer lists nor seems to sell this OCXO. Has anyone seen or have a

Re: [time-nuts] time messages

2014-05-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Here’s my guess: Powers of two sound fine. Anything more than that is getting into the “waste of bits” area. Fully silly range might be +32 to -32. On a practical basis, some of that range is not useful (+32 for example). Pick a number at one end or the other (zero or 255 or ...) for “I d

Re: [time-nuts] time messages

2014-05-26 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/26/14, 11:13 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Jim, On 05/26/2014 07:43 PM, Jim Lux wrote: I'm in the middle of implementing a lightweight time distribution system using SpaceWire (a fast point to point serial link with simple routers to build networks). SpaceWire provides a special token ca

Re: [time-nuts] time messages

2014-05-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Jim, On 05/26/2014 07:43 PM, Jim Lux wrote: I'm in the middle of implementing a lightweight time distribution system using SpaceWire (a fast point to point serial link with simple routers to build networks). SpaceWire provides a special token called a timecode which propagates from a "tick s

[time-nuts] time messages

2014-05-26 Thread Jim Lux
I'm in the middle of implementing a lightweight time distribution system using SpaceWire (a fast point to point serial link with simple routers to build networks). SpaceWire provides a special token called a timecode which propagates from a "tick source" to various nodes, but that just provide

Re: [time-nuts] SSR-6Tr vs Lotus M12M

2014-05-26 Thread Jason Rabel
> Does anyone have experience with the Synergy SSR-6Tr > and the fairly recent Lotus based M12M. Thomas, I've also recently discovered that Furuno makes a GPS module that is M12 compatible (size, power, communication)... The advantage of the newest model (GT-8736) is it has GPS + SBAS + GLONASS