[time-nuts] 53230A input channel fault?

2014-11-19 Thread Anders Wallin
Hi all, I have a 53230A that behaves differently on ch1 and ch2. With ch2 at DC/1Mohm/postive-slope/1V it triggers ok on my PPS signal and shows e.g. a pusle-width measurement etc. The same signal connected to ch1 fails to trigger. I noticed the Vpp and Vmax/Vmin voltage readings are not

Re: [time-nuts] ***SPAM*** 53230A input channel fault?

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Cook
Le 19 nov. 2014 à 09:47, Anders Wallin anders.e.e.wal...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi all, I have a 53230A that behaves differently on ch1 and ch2. With ch2 at DC/1Mohm/postive-slope/1V it triggers ok on my PPS signal and shows e.g. a pusle-width measurement etc. The same signal connected

Re: [time-nuts] Yet another GPSDO

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It also could be a club / group and these could be club design projects. If they are done from some sort of kit, the level of parts and workmanship may vary a bit. You do *not* want to buy the first Heathkit I ever built …. Since the surplus GPSDO’s we buy for a hundred dollars or so mostly

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A input channel fault?

2014-11-19 Thread Anders Wallin
A colleague of mine had seen this exact same behavior on another 53230A. The problem is a narrow trace right after the CH1 BNC input. http://www.anderswallin.net/2014/11/53230a-counter-input-channel-fix/ There might be some chemical corrosion going on, since the other counter that experienced

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent Rubidium Schematics

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
Perrier I also requested them offline. Did not receive them. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Jan Boutsen jan.bout...@telenet.be wrote: Dear Perry: I would be pleased to receive the PDF and schematics, Many thanks for your efforts in this matter. Boutsen Jan PhD

[time-nuts] Fluke 7260a manual

2014-11-19 Thread Brian Lloyd
Does anyone have a Fluke 7260a manual? I am able to use mine pretty well but would like to better understand the interval measuring functions. -- Brian Lloyd Lloyd Aviation 706 Flightline Drive Spring Branch, TX 78070 br...@lloyd.aero +1.210.802-8FLY (1.210.802-8359)

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke 7260a manual

2014-11-19 Thread Szeker K.
Hi Brian, Tucker has it, but for $75,- http://www.etestmanuals.com/Search.aspx?Mfg=FLUPage=4 K. 2014-11-19 15:56 GMT+01:00 Brian Lloyd br...@lloyd.aero: Does anyone have a Fluke 7260a manual? I am able to use mine pretty well but would like to better understand the interval measuring

[time-nuts] 5 to 10 MHz Quadrature Driven Mixer Doubler

2014-11-19 Thread johncroos via time-nuts
I have received permission to distribute copies of my QEX article on this subject from ARRL. In addition to the article I will include full size schematics and color photos of the various assemblies. The design includes an adjustable 10 MHz output amplifier for driving 50 OHM loads. If

[time-nuts] QEX article please

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] 53230A input channel fault?

2014-11-19 Thread Adrian Godwin
I recently got a used 53131A. It had the same problem, even though the BNC connectors are fixed to the front panel. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Anders Wallin anders.e.e.wal...@gmail.com wrote: A colleague of mine had seen this exact same behavior on another 53230A. The problem is a

[time-nuts] ADF4001/4002 startup questions

2014-11-19 Thread Neil Schroeder
Morning nuts- I'm aware several of you use the ADF4002 for a simple small PLL in your radios. Could any of you share some example bits or maybe even the code you use during startup? I know what my latch values should be, but I don't seem to be getting them wrapped in the right control bits. I

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke 7260a manual

2014-11-19 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Szeker K. szeke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, Tucker has it, but for $75,- http://www.etestmanuals.com/Search.aspx?Mfg=FLUPage=4 K. Thank you. I have been able to find the manual but, as you indicated, only at a price exceeding what I paid for the unit.

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread Mike Feher
Hi Doug - Wow. Wonder how many on here remember or know about National's Damn Fast line, HI. I used them all the time, and, still have a few. 73 - Mike Mike B. Feher, EOZ Inc. 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 office 908-902-3831 cell -Original Message- From: time-nuts

[time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
Was doing a search for Lucent RFTGm-II-XO looking for alternates to the $150 solution. A 10 Mhz mod popped up. http://telcodata.us/~myself/Lucent-RFTGm-Modification.pdf Looks simple enough and I have not validated anything. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___

Re: [time-nuts] ADF4001/4002 startup questions

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The 4001 is pretty forgiving of order of load issues. I’ve always just followed the order in the AD app notes and it’s worked fine. I’d recommend getting any of the USB logic level scopes and tacking it onto what you have. The ones I have seen are plenty fast enough for this kind of

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Another alternative would be to AC couple into a NC7SZ125 (using a 0.1 uf cap and a pair of 100K resistors )and take the output off with a Tee filter (using two 1.5 uH coils and a 270 pf cap). Bob On Nov 19, 2014, at 5:47 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Was doing a search

Re: [time-nuts] ADF4001/4002 startup questions

2014-11-19 Thread Neil Schroeder
I got myself a bus pirate - thanks for bringing that forward in my brain. I got a lot of great responses thank you everyone. On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi The 4001 is pretty forgiving of order of load issues. I’ve always just followed the order in the AD

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Since they were designed to be used inside the feedback loop of an op-amp, they may not be the best thing to use “stand alone”. Of course if they are free, it’s hard to beat the price. Bob On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Mike Feher mfe...@eozinc.com wrote: Hi Doug - Wow. Wonder how

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread Dan Rae
On 11/19/2014 2:47 PM, paul swed wrote: Was doing a search for Lucent RFTGm-II-XO looking for alternates to the $150 solution. A 10 Mhz mod popped up. http://telcodata.us/~myself/Lucent-RFTGm-Modification.pdf Looks simple enough and I have not validated anything. Regards Paul WB8TSL Paul,

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi This is a branch thread that never got it’s title changed to drop the KS-24361 part of it. More or less it’s “compare the older KS boxes to the newer ones”. Bob On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Dan Rae dan...@verizon.net wrote: On 11/19/2014 2:47 PM, paul swed wrote: Was doing a search for

Re: [time-nuts] RFTG-u REF 0 Z3812 as cleanup module for FEI5680A

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
HI For anything short of microwave multiplication, the 15 MHz output of the Z3810/11/12 is likely to be “good enough”. The 60 KHz noise hump that may be from the power brick isn’t going to make it through a PLL going to VHF, so the only benefit of pulling the brick would be some sort of SDR

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread Dave Daniel
I remember the Fast and Damn Fast Buffer Amp data sheet. LH0036? I may not be remembering the correct part number. I used to have a copy of that data sheet, as well as another that was labeled DC to Daylight on the data sheet. DaveD On 11/19/2014 2:42 PM, Mike Feher wrote: Hi Doug - Wow.

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Looking at the 58503 auctions on eBay, I think that a number of them are simply Z3801’s out of cell tower scrap operations that have had the 58503 front panel bits and pieces added to them. Some of the cases have a fairly odd look to them. Bob On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Charles

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
I just saw the picture of the units front panel and it looked the same. Oh well. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi This is a branch thread that never got it’s title changed to drop the KS-24361 part of it. More or less it’s “compare the

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread Dave M
I think those devices were in the same databook that had a page in the back of the book, containing only the text This page is as blank as a salesman's memory The person who did the final editing on that issue had a rare sense of humor. Dave M Dave Daniel wrote: I remember the Fast and

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Lucent has been putting GPS based Radio Frequency Timing Generators (RFTG) into cell sites for a long time. They all have the 15 MHz and pps outputs in common. Lucent also seems to like one paint color and an approximate size. For what ever reason (because they can?) the model numbers and

Re: [time-nuts] Yet another GPSDO

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi After some more digging, the date convention used by the club or what ever it is: year - month - day. I sort of doubted that was the case, but indeed it is. The GPSDO has a design date of November 6th 2014. They are pretty much just out of beta test (if that) at this point. Bob On Nov

Re: [time-nuts] Yet another GPSDO

2014-11-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi After some more digging, I was more than a bit high on my kit cost estimate. The MV89’s are $5-$6 on the market in China. The PCBs as a set are under $3. Best guess is that the kit (if that’s what it is) sells for under $25 un-assembled. Bob On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Bob Camp

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread Jim Lux
On 11/19/14, 3:59 PM, Dave Daniel wrote: I remember the Fast and Damn Fast Buffer Amp data sheet. LH0036? I may not be remembering the correct part number. I used to have a copy of that data sheet, as well as another that was labeled DC to Daylight on the data sheet. DaveD On 11/19/2014 2:42

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
And I am the happy owner of 4 or 5 of the $25 RBs. Hey they are old but you can recover them with the old heatgun trick. That said glowing things like those do tend to wear out. I could see why they moved away from them. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Lucent

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
I know I have some numbers of chroma demod chips as I recall. Picked up in a flea market special along with other more useful chips. I absolutely have the LH033 buffers. Fet input and like lots of power. Have used them as frequency buffers. Super easy to use. Real chips Regards Paul WB8TSL On

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
My fonts are going amuck On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:09 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: I know I have some numbers of chroma demod chips as I recall. Picked up in a flea market special along with other more useful chips. I absolutely have the LH033 buffers. Fet input and like lots of

[time-nuts] 5 to 10 MHz Quad Driven Mixer doubler article

2014-11-19 Thread johncroos via time-nuts
Apparently there is some interest in this technique. So far I have 35 requests and still counting. Please if you do want a copy send me an email OFF LIST to johncr...@aol.com. Requests posted on list are too hard to find and too hard to make into a master address list. In addition to the basic

[time-nuts] 5 to 10 MHz Quad Driven Mixer doubler article

2014-11-19 Thread wb6bnq
Hi John, I would be interested in your article. May I suggest that if you do not have a means of putting it ALL into one PDF, let me know as I have scanning ability as well as publishing into the PDF format. That way it could be put on to a server that KO4BB maintains foir all the Timenuts

[time-nuts] MIT 2 inch cesium fountain, optically pumped

2014-11-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
See: http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/portable-atomic-clocks-1112 Any comments? Rick Karlquist N6RK ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] MIT 2 inch cesium fountain, optically pumped

2014-11-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Rick, They did not mention the complexity of the laser system they needed, especially considering that the optical bench of a fountain isn't all that small, and also because they want to de-tune lasers. While they seems to have an idea, they didn't touch on that subject. Nice to see that