Re: [time-nuts] Using CPLD/FPGA or similar for frequency

2015-06-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Alan Ambrose alan.ambr...@anagram.net wrote: How about a 1pS resolution TIC? :) Or a 12 digit frequency counter? :) :) It's not a proper time-nut project unless there's a nutty element... Well, how complex? Front end with a fast ADC and make a DSP DMTD

Re: [time-nuts] PPS for NTP Server - How Close Is Good Enough?

2015-06-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Be careful of “single source” comparisons. When running with one reference, NTP is really measuring the reference against it’s self. It’s analogous to using a frequency counter to check it’s own reference. It *does* indeed check a number of things. It’s not really checking everything. An

Re: [time-nuts] Using CPLD/FPGA or similar for frequency

2015-06-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Depending on which chip you are using and how big it is, you can get into the 150 to 500 ps range running a carry chain as a TDC.That’s without getting into things like hand routing and temperature / voltage issues. How big a chip you need will be a function of how high you can get the

[time-nuts] Firmware for TymServe 2100

2015-06-11 Thread Sean Gallagher
Does anyone have v4.1 of the firmware for the 2100 they wouldn't mind sending me? With the new Heol GPS receivers on the way I would like to test it on the different firmware versions but I can only seem to find my v3.1. Respectfully, Sean Gallagher Malware Analyst 571-340-3475

Re: [time-nuts] PPS for NTP Server - How Close Is Good Enough?

2015-06-11 Thread EB4APL
Hi Ed, I have started another thread under the name NTG550AA 1 PPS mod for finding the subject easier and I include here my thoughts about this modification. I am the one who discovered the 1PPS pulse while troubleshooting a NTG550AA. For me I don't imagine any future use of the X8 Chip

Re: [time-nuts] Firmware for TymServe 2100

2015-06-11 Thread Gerhard Wittreich
Sean, I have it (but not with me) and can send it directly to you this evening. I will also gladly post if anyone else is interested. Gerhard R Wittreich, P.E. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Sean Gallagher s...@wetstonetech.com wrote: Does anyone have v4.1 of the firmware for the 2100 they

Re: [time-nuts] z3801a - serial help and for sale

2015-06-11 Thread David Andersen
Thanks for the suggestions! It turns out the answer was my serial dongle was failing. *head bonk* I swapped it out for another FDTI-based dongle and suddenly there's a happy working z3801a. Before I throw it on eBay, would anyone like a working (yay!) z3801a modified to take mains power?

Re: [time-nuts] PPS for NTP Server - How Close Is Good Enough?

2015-06-11 Thread M. George
Hi Bob, yes I'm including several other sources and usually about 3 are getting included in the discipline of the local clock. Here is my ntpq -pcrl output at the time I wrote this message. pi@raspi2 ~ $ ntpq -pcrl remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter

Re: [time-nuts] z3801a - serial help and for sale

2015-06-11 Thread David C. Partridge
Where on the planet are you? I'm in UK so if you are in USA shipping will make it uneconomic. Regards, David Partridge -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David Andersen Sent: 11 June 2015 21:39 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] PPS for NTP Server - How Close Is Good Enough?

2015-06-11 Thread M. George
Here is what I have been able to do with a Motorola Oncore UT+ that I got from Bob Stewart awhile back. This is with a Raspberry PI 2 with a number of tweaks and a custom compiled kernel. Nothing too drastic... plus the current Dev version of NTP compile on the Raspberry PI. I'm getting better

Re: [time-nuts] PPS for NTP Server - How Close Is Good Enough?

2015-06-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Comparing a GPS to a series of “over the net” sources will always make the GPS look good. NTP is usually smart enough to figure out that the GPS is the one it wants and lock in on it. The ppm’s at the bottom are talking about the software PLL and how it’s offset from your computer’s

Re: [time-nuts] z3801a - serial help and for sale

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Feher
I modified one of my 3801s by placing a home brew linear power supply in it and a regular 3 connector AC plug in place of the 48 volt one. The power supply with the transformers was a tight fit, but I managed. It has been working fine for about 12 years. I also replaced the solid top cover with

[time-nuts] Using CPLD/FPGA or similar for frequency

2015-06-11 Thread Alan Ambrose
Hi, So that turns into 2 games: How fast can you count? How many digits can you get in 1 second? A clever interpolator for frequency or TIC would kill it - for TIC essentially a PICTIC on steroids. The PICTIC does 19pS with a 10 bit ADC and a 66MHz clock, an SR620 does 4pS with a 12 bit