Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-10-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi At that time (and today) a 3801 is a “well over $300” sort of box at auction. The REF-0 box hovers between $25 and $40 depending on the direction the wind is blowing. Cost does matter …. What makes sense on a $800 gizmo probably does not make sense on a $80 stitch up project. Yes you cou

Re: [time-nuts] advice for buying VCXO

2015-10-05 Thread Jim Harman
Only the first oscillator in your list is voltage controllable (VC). If you want to steer it with a GPS as we have been discussing, it needs to be voltage controllable. You will also want to consider the mounting and whether you are able to solder surface mount devices like the second one in your

Re: [time-nuts] Iridium source?

2015-10-05 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John: It seems like the indoor improvement over GPS is based on the much stronger signal level of the Iridium signal. Note the two signals are both in the 1.6 Ghz area. Page 15 of this document says the BOM cost is under $20 for this service (no mention about the monthly subscription). The

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-10-05 Thread Bob Stewart
Synergy GPS makes an SSR-6Tr board that speaks Motorola binary and would probably work in the KS-24361.  It's on an M12+ sized board, so you'd also need their adapter board to fit it in.  Their SSR-M8T board would probably do the same thing but using an LEA-M8T receiver.  I believe they're selli

[time-nuts] Iridium source?

2015-10-05 Thread John Todd
I’m working on a project that needs a good clocking source deep inside of noisy environments (data centers and the like.) This can’t be network-based - it needs to be independent of the systems surrounding it, and GPS/GPS-like systems will often be unreachable. I’ve read up a bit on Iridium

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-10-05 Thread Gregory Beat
I went back to the Time-Nuts archives, and noted that a modern GPS receiver to replace the Motorola Oncore UT+ (8-channel, timing) in the HP Z3801A was discussed 3 years ago (Sept, 2012). https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2012-September/070132.html Bob Camp suggested something like a uBlo

[time-nuts] advice for buying VCXO

2015-10-05 Thread Can Altineller
Hello, I am want to buy some VCXO's but really simple and cheap ones. I requested a quote from goledge.com and their prices are around 180GBP per unit, and I dont want to pay that much given you can buy a rubidium standard for comparable prices. I looked on ebay and found those candidates: http: