Re: [time-nuts] Building a mains frequency monitor

2016-04-06 Thread Jeremy Nichols
I've monitored line frequency with one of my old HP frequency counters. A filament transformer with a potentiometer across the secondary allows me to dial a safe voltage for the counter, about 1 V RMS. My ancient counters are limited in their data collection abilities; I'm sure your picPET device

Re: [time-nuts] Building a mains frequency monitor

2016-04-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
Phase noise? The line frequency shifts phase every time a major electrical load is added or dropped from the power line. Seems to me this effect swamps every error in the measurement system. You are looking for parts per thousand at most. Precision GPSDO 10 MHz is overkill. In my humble opinion,

Re: [time-nuts] Building a mains frequency monitor

2016-04-06 Thread Nick Sayer via time-nuts
I did this not too long ago. I used GPS PPS as the reference. I took a 9v wall wart, pinned one side to ground, ran the other through a rectifier diode and into one input of an LM358 wired as a comparator, comparing to 2.5 volts (Vcc/2). The 358 was slow enough that hysteresis wasn’t required.

Re: [time-nuts] Building a mains frequency monitor

2016-04-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Jay, Building a mains frequency monitor is a great way to expose yourself to almost everything about precise time & frequency and measurement -- for a few dollars. Working with quartz, rubidium, cesium simply moves the decimal place over a few digits. Have a look at: http://leapsecond.com/

Re: [time-nuts] Unix equivalent of Windows RbMon app for PRS10 monitoring

2016-04-06 Thread albertson . chris
Seems like you don't have to write much. Put you commands in a text file then a cron job copies the file to the serial port and send any data coming back to stdout. Gets piped to script that dumps that and current time to sql database. I bet a dozen lines of code total. > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:

Re: [time-nuts] LEA-M8T

2016-04-06 Thread Bob Stewart
Hi Logan, I seem to remember Bob Camp mentioning that you can't have multiple satellite sources in the mix, because the other satellites are inferior to the GPS sats in timing. Maybe Bob or someone could address this. I would love to discover that I've set something wrong in all the many, man

[time-nuts] Building a mains frequency monitor

2016-04-06 Thread Jay Grizzard
Since it seems to be a week for new projects on time-nuts... ;) So I've been wanting to set up a power line frequency monitor for a while, and now(ish) seemed to be a good time for me. So initially, I was planning on doing a simple design that was posted here a couple of years back, which basical

Re: [time-nuts] Unix equivalent of Windows RbMon app for PRS10 monitoring

2016-04-06 Thread Michael Wouters
Dear Mike, I have a Perl script and a C++ application that may be of use. The Perl script logs continuously, but is mainly for logging TT? responses. The C++ application is used interactively. Either could be modified to do what you want. Take a look at: https://github.com/openttp/openttp/blob/d

[time-nuts] eLoran is on the air since the 5th

2016-04-06 Thread paul swed
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Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuttery at EFTF-2016

2016-04-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
> One interesting poster from Justervesenet (Norways National Meterology > Institute) addressed some odd characteristics of the Keysight 53230A > counter and the way it process data. It have shown several problems, and > part of the research was done after borrowing a counter from a > time-nuts

[time-nuts] Time-nuttery at EFTF-2016

2016-04-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, Now a few days into the EFTF 2016 in York, I can report we are having some good fun. Attila get's to bounce his work against some good folks, and I get to bounce some of my ideas around too, with nice responce. I did my presentation today, and it went really smooth. I held a

Re: [time-nuts] Unix equivalent of Windows RbMon app for PRS10 monitoring

2016-04-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, I have too been tempted to do this, but never got around to it. It one among many projects I should do one of these days. Have a bunch of PRS10 to debug. Cheers, Magnus On 04/06/2016 11:13 AM, Mike Cook wrote: Before I start re-inventing wheels, has anyone got a non-graphical interface to

[time-nuts] LEA-M8T

2016-04-06 Thread Bob Stewart
I recently bought a number of LEA-M8T receivers and I have to say that I am unimpressed, so far. They don't survey to the same reported accuracy as the LEA-6T in the same amount of time. They certainly aren't better in the jitter after sawtooth correction. So, have I managed to overlook some

[time-nuts] Does anyone have an inoperable TS2100 they'd part with?

2016-04-06 Thread Sean Gallagher
Plan C at my job for keeping our time service going was running two TS2100 machines in conjunction with one another like what Andrew Cooper did when the rollover bug hit, and which we also did for awhile. Unfortunately the power unit on one of my units seems to have blown. We could see that the

Re: [time-nuts] Advise on building a DIY GPSDO?

2016-04-06 Thread Bert Kehren via time-nuts
Having been a time nut for almost 50 years knot knowing it I like to add my thoughts. Starting in the late 60's I won second place at IEEE student contest for my counter design using 7 segment lamp and Motorola RTL in the 70's I buried a Sulzer using bank coin bags filled with sand to close t

Re: [time-nuts] Advise on building a DIY GPSDO?

2016-04-06 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One thing to keep in mind: If you are looking at stuff like sawtooth on most (but not all) GPS modules, the counter you use to take the data does not have to be some sort of monster machine. An old 5334 or 5335 will let you see the basic structure. If you spend time shopping, neither one is

[time-nuts] Unix equivalent of Windows RbMon app for PRS10 monitoring

2016-04-06 Thread Mike Cook
Before I start re-inventing wheels, has anyone got a non-graphical interface to the PRS10. Specifically, I want to log over time any/all the data points seen on the RbMon output, though it would be nice to have a curses version of the window. I have got a sniffer on the link and interaction look

Re: [time-nuts] Advise on building a DIY GPSDO?

2016-04-06 Thread Hal Murray
albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: > I may never get around tooth's as the Rb is very good all by itself to the > limit of my ability to measure it. Wait longer. :) If your Rb doesn't have a PPS, make one. One of tvb's divider chips is probably the simplest approach. You can probably do it wit