Re: [time-nuts] Intro and Driver Request

2016-05-12 Thread Robert Watzlavick
I used one of the BC620AT cards many years ago with a DOS system. All we needed was time within a second so we used with a Bancomm-supplied DOS driver (I think) that replaced the system clock with IRIG-B based time instead of the PC clock. It may have come with a regular driver but I can't re

Re: [time-nuts] Intro and Driver Request

2016-05-12 Thread John Allen
FWIW, The Win 2000 driver will work on Win XP. John, K1AE -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jason T Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Intro and Driver Request Hello Time-Nuts - I've ended up

[time-nuts] HP5065A environmental sensitivities

2016-05-12 Thread cdelect
HP 5065A Environmental sensitivity First here is a comparison between the specified sensitivities of various Rubidium units. Barometric per mbar Temperature per degree C HP 5065A6.3X10-14 1.6X10-12 M100 FRK 8.7x10-1

[time-nuts] Intro and Driver Request

2016-05-12 Thread Jason T
Hello Time-Nuts - I've ended up here by way of the ham radio, electronics and classic computing hobbies, which I'd bet is a common trail to follow for time-standard collectors. I don't have any exotic equipment at the moment but I've run across GPS and rubidium-based test equipment online and at h

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi So, now that the *is* an alternative to ‘125 buffers … What do you need? You can string enough inverters in series to hit any isolation spec. They are cheap and easy to string together. The question is: how good are they? You do a sine to square conversion and then split the digital signal

[time-nuts] TNS-BUF Isolation Amplifier

2016-05-12 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I've put some info about the TNS-BUF isolation amplifier at: http://febo.com/pages/TNS-BUF/ I'll work on adding to this page as I can, and in the next few days will post some information to the list about how we'll put a group order together. John _

Re: [time-nuts] semi-dead FTS 1000

2016-05-12 Thread paul swed
Gerhard, If anyone has them they will be here on Time-nuts. But that said the ovens are not that hard to reverse engineer. Especially when the heater doesn't heat. So you may be able to figure out whats up. Dive in as they say nothing to loose and an education to gain. Good luck and keep us updated

[time-nuts] semi-dead FTS 1000

2016-05-12 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Hi, I won a FEI 1000A oscillator here on local ebay, but it turned out that the heater does not work anymore. It oscillated, but drew only 30 mA or so instead of ?600 mA in the heatup phase. It was taken back, but the seller who inherited these things is a ham, too, and he would like to dissect a

Re: [time-nuts] 2016 W.G. Cady award

2016-05-12 Thread Pete Lancashire
Some info on Cady http://www.ieee-uffc.org/main/memorial-cady.asp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Guyton_Cady http://ethw.org/Walter_G._Cady http://amhistory.si.edu/archives/AC0046.pdf On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > Congratulations > > -pete > > On Thu, May

Re: [time-nuts] 2016 W.G. Cady award

2016-05-12 Thread Pete Lancashire
Congratulations -pete On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Bernd Neubig wrote: > Thank you for the congratulations. > I am very pleased to have received this prestigious award named after Walter > G. Cady, the guy who has built the first crystal oscillator in 1921. > > Bernd Neubig > > -Ursprün

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Bruce wrote: >  For even lower flicker noise using a mixer assembled using > 2NA's as diodes is even quieter as NIST have shown. Note that mixers built with 2Ns only have lower noise than good schottky DBMs below about 200 Hz -- above that, schottky DBMs are better (see Figures 4 and

Re: [time-nuts] What is "accuracy"? (newbie timenut, hi folks!)

2016-05-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Belinda, On 05/06/2016 03:34 AM, BJ wrote: Hi Time Nuts, I'm fairly new to the fascinating world of time and frequency, so I apologise profusely in advance for my blatant ignorance. We have all been there, so don't worry about it! Your questions is actually really relevant and you've done

Re: [time-nuts] 2016 W.G. Cady award

2016-05-12 Thread Bernd Neubig
Thank you for the congratulations. I am very pleased to have received this prestigious award named after Walter G. Cady, the guy who has built the first crystal oscillator in 1921. Bernd Neubig -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von

Re: [time-nuts] What is "accuracy"? (newbie timenut, hi folks!)

2016-05-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bill, On 05/06/2016 06:22 AM, wb6bnq wrote: Hello Belinda, First off there is no such thing as accuracy, in and of itself. I know many people on this list will call me on that, but accuracy requires a point of reference. With regard to frequency that reference point has been defined by some W

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The offset oscillator in a DMTD needs to be uncorrelated with the devices under test. If it correlates with one or the other input, you have a single mixer system. That’s fine, just don’t bother with all the extra parts. A better way is to just grab a random OCXO and ground the EFC. That gi

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Probably the simplest limiter that works at all is one based on a couple of op amps. You need the active filter function (high pass + low pass) in front of the limiter. You also might as well amplify the signal up to a significant peak to peak without limiting. That gets you the fastest ed

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but may be able to avoid Bob having to reinvent the wheel. A few years ago I built up the PCB for a high isolation, low noise buffer amp based on a design by Bruce Griffiths. The board is all set for production; I just ran out of time. The "TNS-BUF" works ex

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 12 May 2016 05:51:50 + (UTC) Bruce Griffiths wrote: > The input noise of a 125 series gate will be far larger than the noise at the > mixer output at the beat frequency. A 125 may be useful as the output stage > of a Collins style limiter chain wherein which the gain and bandwidth o

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The phase noise and spurs of the common offset oscillator do not cancel completely since the zero crossings of both channels do not occur at exactly the same time.http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/24305.pdf an the papers by Greenhall address this issue. Bruce On Thursday, 12 May 2016 5:51 P

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD was: high rev isolation amps

2016-05-12 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The input noise of a 125 series gate will be far larger than the noise at the mixer output at the beat frequency. A 125 may be useful as the output stage of a Collins style limiter chain wherein which the gain and bandwidth of each successive stage increases in a way that ensures that the output