[time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread Mark Sims
Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. - Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A questions

2016-09-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 09/26/2016 04:04 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 9/25/2016 6:42 PM, Skip Withrow wrote: 1. What the heck is rubidium cell flooding, and how does the TEC in the 5065A fix this problem? None of the -many- rubidium oscillators that I have been inside before has a TEC, and I have

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
I watched the video when it first hit the list and found it interesting, as I would any complex industrial process. I've seen another crystal film that was available a few years ago as a file, but can't find the reference. The people who can't believe people ever worked under those conditions

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 9/25/2016 6:53 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you dropped in to a crystal manufacturing plant at any point over the next 30 years after that film was made, the styles of dress had changed. The crystal holders had changed. Most of the processes were still the same and some of the gear was

Re: [time-nuts] Inside of FT1200-100

2016-09-25 Thread Christopher Hoover
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: > > You might be able to slide something like a feeler guage down between the > oven and the rubber blanket to break the oscillator free. The oven on mine > is a plain metal cylinder. This way, the rubber sheet should

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A questions

2016-09-25 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 9/25/2016 6:42 PM, Skip Withrow wrote: 1. What the heck is rubidium cell flooding, and how does the TEC in the 5065A fix this problem? None of the -many- rubidium oscillators that I have been inside before has a TEC, and I have never seen the subject addressed. The manual suggests that it

[time-nuts] HP 5065A questions

2016-09-25 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello time-nuts, I have recently had the opportunity to play with an HP 5065A rubidium standard and have some questions. This unit has been powered down for quite a long time, it appears to be almost working. I can see both the 137Hz and second harmonic signals but they seem very low. In the

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Sometimes this game goes very silly. Earlier this year I was invited to come and talk in the US since it seems extremely hard to learn about real-life chores in GPS usage, since every american company would not be able to tell anything useful as it is "business confidential". I was even

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi As I said, there was more than one side to the controversy. The crystal industry being what it was, what one company knew, the others soon knew. Indeed, there was money made on the film …. Bob > On Sep 25, 2016, at 12:38 PM, William H. Fite wrote: > > So cynical, Bob.

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread William H. Fite
So cynical, Bob. ☺ The fact is that many, many short films of this type were made during WWII and to a lesser extent during the Cold War, primarily for educational awareness of the general pubic as well as members of the armed forces. A great uncle of mine who was an executive at RCA oversaw the

Re: [time-nuts] Visiting a modern crystal factory (was: Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing)

2016-09-25 Thread Lester Veenstra
Just go to Ft Meyers Fl http://www.jancrystals.com Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM W8YCM 6Y6Y les...@veenstras.com Physical and US Postal Addresses 5 Shrine Club Drive (Physical) 452 Stable Ln (RFD USPS Mail) Keyser WV 26726 GPS: 39.336826 N 78.982287 W (Google) GPS: 39.33682 N 78.9823741 W

Re: [time-nuts] Visiting a modern crystal factory

2016-09-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
Attila, On 09/25/2016 04:00 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 09:53:04 -0400 Bob Camp wrote: If you dropped in to a crystal manufacturing plant at any point over the next 30 years after that film was made, the styles of dress had changed. The crystal holders had

[time-nuts] Visiting a modern crystal factory (was: Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing)

2016-09-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 09:53:04 -0400 Bob Camp wrote: > If you dropped in to a crystal manufacturing plant at any point over the next > 30 years after that film > was made, the styles of dress had changed. The crystal holders had changed. > Most of the processes > were still the

Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The film on YouTube was done by a crystal manufacturing company. The production of the film was paid for by the US Government. The company made a chunk of money off of making the film and then preceded to use it as advertising for the next 20 years. If you dropped in to a crystal

[time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

2016-09-25 Thread Mark Sims
Something tells me those crystals cost more than 10 cents... and were probably quite a bit worse than today's 10 cent Chinese processor crystals. Young'uns today have no idea how good they have it... and get off my lawn! I just sorted through a $10 (shipped from China) bag of 100 crystals