[time-nuts] Measurement of the Earth’s rotation: 720 BC to AD 2015.

2016-12-08 Thread Mark Sims
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Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2016-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/8/16 3:34 PM, Don Latham wrote: Hi Jim: From a hardware multi drop viewpoint, the CAN Bus seems on paper to be simplest… 2 120 ohm resistors and a twisted pair… Don except no PC has a CAN interface, so debugging is a pain. One advantage of USB is that pretty much every computer in the

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread David
I am pretty sure that I ran across this once as well with the 7800/LM340 series in the early 1980s with parts from a major manufacturer like Motorola, National, or Texas Instruments; the regulators ran hot and the output voltages were slightly low no matter what decoupling arrangements were made at

Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2016-12-08 Thread Don Latham
Hi Jim: From a hardware multi drop viewpoint, the CAN Bus seems on paper to be simplest… 2 120 ohm resistors and a twisted pair… Don > On Dec 8, 2016, at 8:40 AM, jimlux wrote: > > On 12/8/16 6:18 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: >> Hi Luciano -- >> >> The expanded-channels scenario would use o

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread David
On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 02:25:14 +0100, you wrote: >Am 08.12.2016 um 01:20 schrieb Scott Stobbe: >> Yes, the short hand I like to use is 4 nV*sqrt(R/1000). >> >> 2 nV/rthz off a bandgap is pretty darn impressive, that includes a delta >> vbe gained up ~10x. > >Methinks the advantage comes from converti

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread Van Horn, David
Possible, but it should not need that, and the original design didn't include it. -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:35 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: hmur...

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread Bob Camp
HI Ok, so to fully evaluate the problem, you will need to de-encapsulate the parts. That *is* the next step in this adventure. First pass would be to pull the plastic off of a couple of bad ones and get some pictures of the die. After that, trace them back and see if they are Brand A or Brand B.

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , "Van Horn, David" writes: >I did check the circuit through the whole range that it should >operate in, based on component data sheets. No issues. How long are the wires supplying the regulator ? The LC of the wires inductance and the shunt capacitor over the regulators inpu

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread Van Horn, David
I did check the circuit through the whole range that it should operate in, based on component data sheets. No issues. I also carefully varied the voltage right around where the regulator output is, to see if there was some very narrow band of sensitivity. Nothing. -Original Message- From

Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2016-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/8/16 7:39 AM, timeok wrote: John, Ok I know the development job is very hard with a lot of rework and time spending. I will try your basic unit but I hope you will develop a "multiboard" scenario with a single USB to send the real time data to Timelab. Thank you again to you

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Ed wrote: It would be helpful to give some specific info about the circuit and regulators used for these experiments, such as operating voltage, load current, and regulator type. I concur. It would also be helpful to have more detail about the phenomenon you are observing (see below). Also

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread Scott Stobbe
That's a really nice part, like the old LM723 was bring your own pass element, the 3042 is essentially bring your own reference, I hope that is a trend that continues. And a 10uF capacitor is pretty quiet at 1KHz plus. The other neat thing about the 3042 is the error amplifier is run unity gain wi

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread Van Horn, David
Yes, I hit one of those. I forget the frequency other than around 1 MHz, but it was pretty warm when it shouldn't have been, and it was several volts amplitude. This thing I'm chasing is much more subtle. -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2016-12-08 Thread timeok
John, Ok I know the development job is very hard with a lot of rework and time spending. I will try your basic unit but I hope you will develop a "multiboard" scenario with a single USB to send the real time data to Timelab. Thank you again to you and the group for what you are doing

Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2016-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/8/16 6:18 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: Hi Luciano -- The expanded-channels scenario would use one TICC/Arduino pair for each set of channels. It would require much redesign to stack multiple TICCs on a single Arduino, and I don't think one board would have the power to handle it. What

Re: [time-nuts] Totally unrelated, but..

2016-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/7/16 9:34 PM, Hal Murray wrote: kb...@n1k.org said: the cool thing about those parts is that their PSRR extends up to several MHz. A lot of LDOs have good PSRR to kHz. Which to bring it back to noise in radios ….. could be the issue there. The device isn’t oscillating, it’s just n

Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2016-12-08 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Luciano -- The expanded-channels scenario would use one TICC/Arduino pair for each set of channels. It would require much redesign to stack multiple TICCs on a single Arduino, and I don't think one board would have the power to handle it. What I envisioned would be a set of TICC/Arduinos

Re: [time-nuts] Knights OCXO: Now in plain text...

2016-12-08 Thread Matthias Jelen
Hi Mike, very good, thanks! That helps a lot... Best regards, Matthias     Gesendet: Donnerstag, 08. Dezember 2016 um 14:01 Uhr Von: "Mike Cook" An: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Knights OCXO: Now in plain text... > Le 8 déc. 2016 à 10:40, Mat

Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2016-12-08 Thread timeok
Hi John, a question: In the draft operating manual is write is possible to use 2, 4 ,6 etc. input using multiple (1,2,3) TICC. How are connected the extra TICC boards? Is it possible a single Arduino drive multiple boards or each board is connected to an Arduino processor? thanks,

Re: [time-nuts] Knights OCXO: Now in plain text...

2016-12-08 Thread Mike Cook
> Le 8 déc. 2016 à 10:40, Matthias Jelen a écrit : > > Hello! > > 3rd try, I was using a webmailer which changed it defaults to html. Thanks > for the hint Mike! > > I got an OCXO from a piece of scrapped Agilent equipment. > > The OCXO has a label on it saying: > > CTS KNIGHTS > 970-21

[time-nuts] Knights OCXO: Now in plain text...

2016-12-08 Thread Matthias Jelen
Hello!   3rd try, I was using a webmailer which changed it defaults to html. Thanks for the hint Mike!   I got an OCXO from a piece of scrapped Agilent equipment.   The OCXO has a label on it saying:   CTS KNIGHTS 970-2123-2 10.000 MHz 08924-61037   The OCXO has four wires and an RF-Connector, so

[time-nuts] 2nd try: Info on Knights OCXO

2016-12-08 Thread Matthias Jelen
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