Am 26.01.2018 um 05:26 schrieb Mark Goldberg:
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:51 PM, jimlux wrote:
What we've done is switcher from wide range bus (9-24V) to 8V, 60 dB
ultimate attenuation low pass, switcher 8V to 5V(e.g.), 60 db low pass,
linear with great HF rejection
Hi
I suspect that a lot of people are wondering who the buyer might be ….
Bob
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 6:27 PM, Clint Jay wrote:
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> Perhaps of interest to the list
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> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/25/microsemi/
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> Clint.
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> *No trees were harmed in the
All the GPS receivers that I have tested get the time message out within a
second (either before or after depending upon the model) of the 1PPS pulse...
except the Jupiter receivers. For those, the last byte of the time messages
arrives 1.25 seconds after the 1PPS pulse. This might cause
Hi
The target application is NTP with the PPS probably coming in via a RS-232
serial port.
Anything that jitters less than 200 ns is probably going to look “same / same “.
Bob
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 6:48 PM, Bryan _ wrote:
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> Thanks, forgot I have a Jupiter-T (D-120?) in
Thanks, forgot I have a Jupiter-T (D-120?) in my parts box , on that note out
of the two Trimble vs Jupiter-T. I think the Jupiter has a jitter of around
15ns, not sure what the Jupiter-T specs but I believe 10-20ns.
-=Bryan=-
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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/25/microsemi/
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The Trimble ... it is a newer design.. The Oncore is getting rather long in
the tooth and some have GPS week rollover issues. The Trimble has a higher
clock rate and less 1PPS jitter.
> Which would be the preference as timing receiver Motorola Oncore or a Trimble
>
Some time ago TAPR did a one-time run of a very low noise, very high
isolation buffer amplifier. The assembled boards are sold out, but we
had some extra blank boards made and finally (after a long story) got
those delivered from Hungary to the office.
If you're interested in a TNS-BUF
Hi
Which ever you can get for the least money. Anything much over $10 is probably
“over budget”.
Bob
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 3:57 PM, Bryan _ wrote:
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> Which would be the preference as timing receiver Motorola Oncore or a Trimble
> Resolution T ?
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Which would be the preference as timing receiver Motorola Oncore or a Trimble
Resolution T ?
-=Bryan=-
From: time-nuts on behalf of Pete Stephenson
Sent: January 26, 2018 12:48 PM
To: Paride Legovini; Discussion
On 1/22/2018 4:38 PM, Paride Legovini via time-nuts wrote:
> Dear fellow nuts,
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> I plan to build a decent GPS/GNSS-based Stratum 1 NTP server, and I'm
> looking for a good and possibly affordable timing GPS receiver.
As others have pointed out, NTP over the internet isn't usually more
accurate
Hi
One way or the other you will need some “smarts” to do aging compensation.
That implies adding a CPU of some sort to the “system” you are building. There
is no built in subsystem on the CSAC that will do any of this for you. You also
need some sort of display for your “wrist watch”. Having
Bob:
Interesting that drift rate has a stocastic component.
You mentioned adding code. Was that to the software that comes
with the chip?
Ronald
Hi
The CSAC (like any vapor cell standard) has a drift (aging) process. That’s
just the way it works. It is at a *much* lower rate
Hi
The “ppb” number in this case is the temperature performance. Indeed, that is
“pretty close” to
the temperature performance of the CSAC. Aging is rated at 50 ppb / year.
That’s a bit further
out than what a typical CSAC will do.
In either case, if you let the beast run for a year, it is
Have just seen this and is relevant to the current CSAC discussion
https://www.iqdfrequencyproducts.com/news/2018/01/18/iqd-targets-high-performance-communications-applications-with-new-tight-stability-low-phase-noise-ocxo
Blair lade (Australia)
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:51 PM, jimlux wrote:
> What we've done is switcher from wide range bus (9-24V) to 8V, 60 dB
> ultimate attenuation low pass, switcher 8V to 5V(e.g.), 60 db low pass,
> linear with great HF rejection (i.e. the LT3042) to 3V
>
If it is any help to
Hi
The CSAC (like any vapor cell standard) has a drift (aging) process. That’s
just the way it works. It is at a *much* lower rate than a crystal oscillator,
but
it is the same sort of idea. It is one of their basic differences from a Cesium
beam tube.
Can you “estimate” aging in advance?
Bob:
Sounds reasonable. You suggest to let it age a year and reset
often during the year?
No way to compensate for a linear frequency drift?
Ronald
If you *don’t* correct the *frequency* offset, then you ultimately
have a device
that is off by quite a bit per
Details here: https://www.bipm.org/utils/en/pdf/vacancy_time_physicist2018.pdf
Looks like a fun position for any time-nuts looking to do this sort of thing
professionally.
Cheers!
-Pete
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