Re: [time-nuts] Terrestrial GPS

2018-03-15 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi But, by their nature, not useful for timing or precision navigation. They are simply a solution to the “feed you coupons at the mall” issue. Since they run as an independent system (they have their own ID’s) the direct “pollution” issue on a GPSDO is eliminated. You still have the previous

[time-nuts] Piezo Crystal Company

2018-03-15 Thread Anton Moehammad via time-nuts
Hi,I am looking for datasheet of my piezo crystal company OCXO model 2930175 with freq 10.000MHz.in case someone has pin out its also helpful.Thank You  ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m

Re: [time-nuts] Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland

2018-03-15 Thread fwbray
Dave, Since you are a ham, you might want to visit and operate the ITU amateur station in Geneva. I assume that it is still there, but you might want to check since it's been 35 years since I did it. Just bring your original license -- or what passes for that these days. I don't recall wha

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Tim Shoppa
Dana, the magnetic impulse of a quartz watch stepping the second hand forward is easily picked up by an unshielded coil. Wind a couple hundred turns of magnet wire around a bottle cap and hold near the watch face. Plug into the microphone input of a PC and run audacity to record the waveform. Yo

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The most common way to pull the 32KHz signal off of a watch is via a tuned microphone. At least that’s the way we did it in production. A watch crystal *can* (but usually doesn’t) move > 100 PPM with temperature. When things are set up, assumptions are made about “your” temperature environme

Re: [time-nuts] ?==?utf-8?q? Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland

2018-03-15 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 15.03.2018 um 19:07 schrieb Henk Peek: Hi Dave, I, you and more time-nuts (?) go to the Hamradio meeting Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. Is there interest in an informal be together? I also plan to go to Friedrichshafen. WRT Switzerland, I'll leave that to Attila.  It's his home turf, after a

Re: [time-nuts] ?==?utf-8?q? Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland

2018-03-15 Thread Henk Peek
Hi Dave, I, you and more time-nuts (?) go to the Hamradio meeting Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. Is there interest in an informal be together? Guided tours for individuals to Visit CERN https://visit.cern/tours/guided-tours-individuals Tours will be organized in groups of 24 visitors in the same l

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Dana Whitlow
Most of the quartz watches I've owned were off by about 1-2 minutes per month, which I consider inexcusable. Agreed, the mechanical trimmer is rather problematical, but I'd sure like to see *something *that the sophisticated user can tweak at home. Measurement of the current rate error is probably

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Mar 15, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Dana Whitlow wrote: > > I concur with Bill. And even if one keeps tabs on the current watch error, > as is the usual practice by celestial navigators, once that error reaches > or exceeds more than a minute the process frankly gets more clumsy and > error pron

Re: [time-nuts] Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland

2018-03-15 Thread Pete Stephenson
Also worth mentioning is the Swiss standards organization, METAS, in Bern. Their time and frequency group has a few atomic clocks, a maser, and some other shiny things they use for realizing UTC(CH), as well as a few research projects related to the subject. While not formally open to the public

Re: [time-nuts] Terrestrial GPS

2018-03-15 Thread Leo Bodnar
Such system already exists, is called IMES, uses L1 band and is supported by standard Ublox 8 firmware. http://gpsworld.com/wirelessindoor-positioningopening-up-indoors-11603/ Leo > From: Stewart Cobb > Peter Reilley suggests a backup to GPS using terrestrial transmitters. This > idea has bee

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Yes, but will it display TimeNuts emails on the face of the watch? Better hope it’s a top poster it does :) …. scrolling through a lot of text is sort of non-functional on the Apple Watch. Bob > On Mar 14, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Jean-Louis Oneto wrote: > > The half dial in 02:00 with "S M T

Re: [time-nuts] Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland

2018-03-15 Thread Bernd Neubig
Hi Dave, the center of the Swiss watch & crystal industry is the small town of Grenchen, location of many famous watch makers including the SMH group which includes Microcrystal, previously also Oscilloquartz, and the following wathc brands: Prestige and Luxury: Breguet (CH)

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Watch Recommendation

2018-03-15 Thread Dana Whitlow
I concur with Bill. And even if one keeps tabs on the current watch error, as is the usual practice by celestial navigators, once that error reaches or exceeds more than a minute the process frankly gets more clumsy and error prone. And if a watch drifts in time very rapidly, one loses faith in i