Re: [time-nuts] Why .30 cal holes can't be seen at 800 yds...

2010-11-03 Thread Bill Hawkins
Actually, some old dynamite that is leaking an oily liquid is a sure-fire way to get a flash. Just don't drop it. -Original Message- From: Bill Hawkins [mailto:b...@iaxs.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:39 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject

Re: [time-nuts] Group S/N

2010-11-01 Thread Bill Hawkins
a larger span of ideas. All of them will not appeal to you, so you use the delete key more often. But aren't you also saving useful things more often? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Rex Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:53 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again (absolute time)

2010-10-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
with pulsar phase relationships -- if you could locate the pulsars and predict their behavior at that time. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:42 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again On 10/30/2010 04:48 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Most precise clock ever created - here we go again

2010-10-29 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, I've always thought that the reason that there are quantum dimensions, like the Planck time, is because we are living in a very high-class computer simulation. There has to be granularity at some level. Happy Halloween Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun

Re: [time-nuts] Absolute time (was Time of death-Again)

2010-10-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
it stops in December 2012. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Raj Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:17 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again T=0 could be a recent supernova for a secular short measurement span considering

Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again

2010-10-27 Thread Bill Hawkins
$1000 for our Kilowatt Eraser. Kill-o-Watt, heh heh. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Perry Sandeen Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:52 PM To: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again Gents, Wrote: If you want a sub-microsecond time of death, sit

Re: [time-nuts] R-S Cesium standard

2010-10-26 Thread Bill Hawkins
that would break the loop. The Amplifier probably isn't the one after the integrator, but is the one that amplifies the output of the physics package. In a Rb standard, the physics package is the phase detector for the PLL. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday

Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity

2010-10-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
with not knowing when you will die. Your loved ones can get bank loans based on what's in your will. It's a win-win situation, as long as the sword doesn't miss. Happy Halloween, Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity

2010-10-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
. Where would you put it? (S. Wright) It would take an extraordinary ego to believe that anyone would care about your exact time of death. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin

[time-nuts] Cesium standard, Fluke 207, and Spectracom 8163 Sold

2010-10-20 Thread Bill Hawkins
The items have been sold to a local buyer. I'm an old man looking to lighten the load that anchors me here, not a dealer willing to ship anywhere. Thanks for your interest. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB 60 kHz Loop Antenna Progress

2010-10-19 Thread Bill Hawkins
work with WWVB, I have a Spectracom 60KHz receiver and extras in a Tektronix rack or a Fluke 207 for sale at moving sale prices. I never thought there'd be any interest. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob

Re: [time-nuts] 60KHz Antenna Cont'd

2010-10-19 Thread Bill Hawkins
KHz signal from nearby CRT monitors. My QTH is Minneapolis, MN, not that far from Fort Collins, CO. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Perry Sandeen Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:44 PM To: time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Cesium standard prices

2010-10-19 Thread Bill Hawkins
bill went up. The problem is shipping. Case has Cs warnings, but they may no longer be a problem. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Perry Sandeen Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:15 PM To: time-nuts-requ

Re: [time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
Ah, John, that's wonderful. A weekend without addressing any problems? I'd maim for that. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:20 PM snip I'm traveling over the weekend so won't be able to address any problems, but if anyone has

Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
it's between the heater and the sensor. One other thing - dead time will destabilize the control loop, when there's too much delay between the heater's heat being sensed by the thermistor. This is usually a location problem. Bill Hawkins (50 years in industrial process control) -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Nano Gyroscope

2010-10-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
. (Thin reference to time in Hamlet) Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Brooke Clarke Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 11:24 AM Hi Gerald: It turns out the the long term drift spec of a gyro depends (using a large power law, far from linear) on it's volume. See: http://www.prc68.com/I

Re: [time-nuts] Regulator Clock

2010-09-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
, and nobody thought anything of it. Sigh. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:19 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
have some idea of how time is adjusted for GPS. Does anyone know how and when MSL is adjusted? I mean, 1.3m is quite a lot. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Thomas A. Frank Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:57 PM On Sep 5, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Steve Rooke wrote: Meant to add, my

Re: [time-nuts] Maintenance manual for Racal 1998 and 1999 universal counter timers

2010-09-05 Thread Bill Hawkins
Darn the bad luck. I thought you had them for sale. -Original Message- From: David C. Partridge Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Maintenance manual for Racal 1998 and 1999 universal counter timers I'm looking for this - has any one found a copy in the wild?

Re: [time-nuts] Maser manual

2010-09-01 Thread Bill Hawkins
Is that anything like an Interocitor? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Corby Dawson Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:48 PM - snip -- I also had to replace the disassociator oscillator with an oscillator/amplifier of my own design

Re: [time-nuts] Does GPS time reception work everywhere all of the time?

2010-08-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
need to have one millisecond resolution? That's a testosterone question. How much am I willing to pay? I dunno, how much are you willing to offer? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Hal Murray Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:39 AM b...@iaxs.net said: I'm involved with time

Re: [time-nuts] What's the lifetime for a HP Z3801a?

2010-08-29 Thread Bill Hawkins
Merci beaucoup, mike. I hadn't done the right record-keeping to discover the actual units. They've been running for 6-7 years, not two, so that works out. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: mike cook Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:44 AM Le 29/08/2010 04:26, Hal Murray a écrit

[time-nuts] What's the lifetime for a HP Z3801a?

2010-08-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
Have a pair of Z3801a receivers and GPSCon. The running time readout for both is greater than 16,000. They were around 5,000 when I got them from somewhere south of here. What kind of numbers do you have? Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list

[time-nuts] Does GPS time reception work everywhere all of the time?

2010-08-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
the control systems to be synchronized in time, so that messages sent periodically through the data diodes will have the correct time stamp on various events that occur in the process. But does that work everywhere all of the time? Where can I find answers? Thanks in advance, as we used to say. Bill

Re: [time-nuts] Better GPS

2010-08-27 Thread Bill Hawkins
You'd think that something at the edge of a continent that moved up and down that much every month would break off. Wait, it's rock all the way down. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Brooke Clarke Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:34 PM ---snip--- I didn't know the Moon tides can

Re: [time-nuts] Slightly OT - GPS-Based Accurate Direction Finding

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Hawkins
Point of reference: A Garmin GPSMAP 60CSx will give you a GPS azimuth once your speed in a straight line is above 10 MPH. Not recommending it, just an observation. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum

2010-08-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, if you can't use nuts, try flakes. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: erniepe...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:43 AM Stanley, how about the TIME-GURU name? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] radioactive decay rates change? Mr Shortts, a resonate ramble.

2010-08-24 Thread Bill Hawkins
Many thanks for posting that. I'll think about it and reply to you. My first thought is that if you were born with the genes for a creative brain, you just naturally want to take things apart. Meanwhile, back to taking apart this frequency synthesizer. Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] radioactive decay rates change?

2010-08-23 Thread Bill Hawkins
or sinusoidal. Perhaps they don't train reporters to ask good questions anymore. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Howard Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:16 PM To: Chris Howard Cc: Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] Alternative time interval interpolation technique

2010-08-14 Thread Bill Hawkins
Scroll to the bottom of the first list, or search for 'LC tanks' Don't know why Bruce's link doesn't work, but I get 404 - file not found. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Stanley Reynolds http://risorse.dei.polimi.it/digital/pubblications.html then scroll down Stanley

Re: [time-nuts] Cool clock with time stamping

2010-08-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
That's my kind of clock, but not my kind of money. Anybody have one that's used, repairable? :) Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Neville Michie Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:44 PM Have a look at this clock. Cheers, Neville Michie http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/07

Re: [time-nuts] No Comment

2010-08-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
, and more often than twice a year. Good luck getting the scheduled world to adopt Meccan time, even if Mecca is declared to be the navel of the Arab world. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock

2010-08-09 Thread Bill Hawkins
Ahhh, this is more like it! Large gears and thick ropes moving heavy weights up and down. :) Of course, you wouldn't want anything digital doing this. Just a large pendulum clock driving a maze of gears that calculate solar and lunar positions. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: J

Re: [time-nuts] A different timenuts interest

2010-07-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
of the ball and omit the railing. That is, if I had the money, ah, and the building. And my own country, where allowing idiots to breed was illegal. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Thursday

Re: [time-nuts] A different timenuts interest

2010-07-21 Thread Bill Hawkins
present unemployment levels, you may be able to hire a person to deliver impulses to the bob as required. But most of the world has automated such systems because people are not reliable. Heck, you could build a pendulum and a metaphor for our times. Best regards, Bill Hawkins (also on Jack's BA list

Re: [time-nuts] Advantages Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

2010-06-16 Thread Bill Hawkins
In my world, successive gains multiply, not add. A series of three gains of 10 gives a gain of 1000, not 30. What am I missing? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:58 AM What you get is a scale error. Consider that you have

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject)

2010-05-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
. If you see less than 5 volts, that's RS-232 and all should be well, unless you see zero volts. I may have the RS-xxx volts somewhat off because my memory isn't what it used to be. The guy you bought it from should be able to help with comm basics. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time

Re: [time-nuts] Lying to Lady Heather

2010-05-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
the output to oscillate, as will a long derivative time. How are you calculating damping? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:22 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Lying to Lady Heather

2010-05-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
A, Ulrich, lad, I, Bill Hawkins, kin to Jim Hawkins and the pirates 0f Treasure Island, do pardon you, though you really should have resisted. (Understanding pirates is key to understanding today's economy.) The pardon is easy, because I have at times ridiculed something that I did

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5071A (for auction)

2010-04-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
Why, yes it does. Marvelous what you can do with Photoshop. Everything technical that Evans has is untested. What a gamble. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Bob Camp Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:13 PM Hi Looks like a clean unit. Bob -Original Message- From: gonzo

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Re Technology. Was Naval Jelly

2010-04-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
See lines prefaced by wh below. Friday the 13th falls on Tuesday this week. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: J. Forster Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:28 AM To: Mike Feher Cc: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: [time-nuts] OT: Re Technology. Was Naval

Re: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync problems

2010-04-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
second. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Thomas A. Frank Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:52 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync problems In this case, the reference clock appears to refer to GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync problems

2010-04-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
the article implied that their reference clock was a wall clock somehow driven by some signal from some satellite. GPS wasn't mentioned. Bill Hawkins BSME MIT 1960 (minor EE) (would have majored in EE but the old rotating machinery was torn out and replaced by vector math) -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync problems

2010-04-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
as a shaded pole induction motor, at less than synchronous speed. Seeking precision time can indeed take some strange directions. Bill Hawkins Don't understand the reference to huskies? Google Challenge of the Yukon or Sergeant Preston -Original Message- From: Brooke Clarke Sent

Re: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync problems

2010-04-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
thrones, or something like that.] Thanks, Brooke. I had some fun explaining all this. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Brooke Clarke Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:58 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom 5115A Phase Noise Allen Deviation TestSet on ePay

2010-04-07 Thread Bill Hawkins
Ah, to be on topic, the floopy drive would have to be the engine of a time machine that specialized in loops. Perhaps closed, time-like curves. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: J. L. Trantham Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:17 PM BTW, how 'floopy' does a drive have

[time-nuts] OT - New Mexico travel and the VLA

2010-03-23 Thread Bill Hawkins
doesn't have much to say. Any clues about how to survive when chile peppers kill the sense of taste? There are some Italian restaurants around in the cities. Sopapillas don't make much of a dinner. Thanks, Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A rubidium lifetime

2010-03-20 Thread Bill Hawkins
. Perhaps my brain is darkening with age . . . Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Corby Dawson Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 4:11 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5065A rubidium lifetime I have been repairing HP 5065A for over 20 years and have never had a failure due

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A rubidium lifetime

2010-03-20 Thread Bill Hawkins
Chuck, How did you get to the bulb? I thought the RVFR was a sealed assembly. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Chuck Harris Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:52 AM The bulb on my HP5065A was silver gray in color when I had it out of the oven. It still had plenty of output

Re: [time-nuts] Do you have HP5065A units for sale? If so, please contact me directly. Thanks!

2010-03-19 Thread Bill Hawkins
. Probability being what it is, there's probably a NIB unit sitting in some warehouse somewhere that will make someone rich beyond their wildest dreams. More likely, it went to a landfill. Regards, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Peter Vince Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:55 AM

[time-nuts] HP-5065A Rubidium Standard end of life query

2010-03-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
in 2008. Google is no help when looking for an RVFR package. Thinking about using an LPRO to maintain the function within the classic HP package. Is anyone else still using a 5065A? Can the RVFR be replaced? Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time

[time-nuts] Time bandits

2010-03-14 Thread Bill Hawkins
it. Then they split up. In April 2005, they went back to it. Celebrate the touch of madness - Spring ahead, gorge on Pi, drink to St. Patrick. Yours for making March interesting, Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe

Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-05 Thread Bill Hawkins
to. Won't need expensive counters, either. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] nubie querie

2010-03-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
1/ There are no sources of constant frequency. Approximations to that goal may be measured by their cost. 2/ There is no single mechanism, unless it's quantum mechanics. Bill Hawkins This message has been fact checked by a 9 year old with a Twitter account. -Original Message- From

[time-nuts] Rock, gas, and air

2010-02-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
Rock I take to be crystal. How about gas and air? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:15 PM To: p...@b737.co.uk; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] My DIY frequency counter and a request

Re: [time-nuts] Rock, gas, and air

2010-02-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
Whack! (sound of hand hitting forehead) Gas must be Ru and Cs. How do you run your pneumatic clocks? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Bill Hawkins [mailto:b...@iaxs.net] Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:34 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'; 'p

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C sounds

2010-02-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
This reference showed up in a radio list from a reliable source (Jerry Proc): http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/2010/02/radio-amateur-volunteers-to-save-l oran.html Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C sounds

2010-02-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
Sorry, this appears to be a hoax. Jerry is Canadian and perhaps not familiar with US politics. Searching for LORAN saved gets no recent hits except for this article. One person on the list asked if it was the first of April already (April Fool's Day). -Original Message- From: Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C sounds

2010-02-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
-5900 www.navcen.uscg.gov -Original Message- From: Bill Hawkins Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:25 PM Sorry, this appears to be a hoax. Jerry is Canadian and perhaps not familiar with US politics. Searching for LORAN saved gets no recent hits except for this article. One person

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C sounds

2010-02-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
. There's a reason why engineers are familiar with not having resources to do it right the first time. Darn, the soap box broke. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: paul swed Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:07 PM Sure they might take a check for $36M or so. As they have said

Re: [time-nuts] NOS Thunderbolts for sale (w/D1 temp sensor)

2010-02-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
No thanks, George. If I bought one, I'd have to use Lady Heather, and I'd never use a lady. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: George Dubovsky Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 1:58 PM I have three, essentially new Trimble Thunderbolt OEM boards for sale. ... 73, geo - n4ua

Re: [time-nuts] LaVoie LA-800D WWV Comparator is Working -- Update

2010-02-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
. Of course, if you sell it you won't be able to see that. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Self winding clock co. Weatern union clock

2010-01-31 Thread Bill Hawkins
is: http://www.kensingtonclock.com/kcsadjust.htm Look down near the bottom of the article where a figure shows the three types - A, B, and C. There's a few paragraphs about the striking mechanism, and then all is revealed. Thanks for maintaining a very informative site. Bill Hawkins O.T.P.S

Re: [time-nuts] Self winding clock co. Weatern union clock

2010-01-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
a BSME from MIT in 1960. Bought a pneumatic clock to see how it worked and gave it away. Western Union got involved in this because they used existing telegraph lines to do the hourly synchronization. Not likely to be low voltage, even with a repeater relay in the building. Bill Hawkins -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Conducting Bench Top Material is not the subject

2010-01-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
just full of shared ignorance. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: J. Forster Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:05 PM To: Bruce Griffiths Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Conducting Bench Top Material Among chemists, it's flour

Re: [time-nuts] DNA Decoder

2010-01-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
and a chicken. There's 16 between homo sap and a chimp. The story of the genes that make our brain case bigger than an ape's was a real surprise. No affiliation with PBS. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Neville Michie Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:33 PM DNA is a pattern

Re: [time-nuts] DMTD Question

2010-01-25 Thread Bill Hawkins
I'm not learning anything from this thread because I don't know the purpose of DMTD or how it would produce a beat note for a phase error. Now, DTMF I understand. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] 4 KV Power Supply Recommendations

2010-01-18 Thread Bill Hawkins
Darn, another one who can't tell ionizing radiation from electromagnetic radiation. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Mark Sims Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:36 PM That third eyeball growing out of your forehead really is quite becoming

Re: [time-nuts] Sidereal time

2010-01-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
math. Ah, I don't think or -1,211 arcmin per day or -0,44 arcmin per year is correct. More change per day than per year? What have I missed? FWIW, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:48 PM While displaying Hour Minutes and Seconds

[time-nuts] Solar Eclipse EFC data

2010-01-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
come from GPScon for 07 to 23 UTC on the 15th. Unit 1 EFC ad=1.43, sd=5.39, TI av =-0.48n, sd = 16.1n Unit 2 EFC ad=1.29, sd=12.7, TI av =-0.23n, sd = 15.6n I expect that any eclipse effect was lost in the noise, but I don't know if my units are abnormally noisy or not. Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] I think I've become a Volt nut too.

2010-01-12 Thread Bill Hawkins
support. What a great day for thought experiments. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Hal Murray Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:28 PM But consider 100,000 pendulums that are all right-on and then the temperature changes. ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Non electrical time-nuttery

2010-01-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
My guess, as a mechanical engineer from MIT in 1960, is that light damping is required to allow the pendulum to settle to its natural frequency after being started. The Brownian Motion thing is also correct for radiometers. You need some molecules, but not many. Bill Hawkins -Original

Re: [time-nuts] I think I've become a Volt nut too.

2010-01-11 Thread Bill Hawkins
Ah, but a man with 14 standards can use statistics! Sorry. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Nic McLean Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:12 PM Can I coin the phrase; A man that has one DC Voltage standard knows how accurate his meter is, whereas a man with two standards

Re: [time-nuts] Non electrical time-nuttery

2010-01-09 Thread Bill Hawkins
Torsion pendula don't depend on the relatively constant force of gravity. Compensating the torsion spring constant is rather different from compensating length. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Bob Camp Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 3:52 PM Hi Yes, that's the idea. I suspect

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Clock kit - no Integrated circuits!

2010-01-09 Thread Bill Hawkins
Only need one tube for a ring counter - the trochotron (q.v.). Just happen to have a military counter based on them, nixie display, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Saturday, January 09

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Clock kit - no Integrated circuits!

2010-01-09 Thread Bill Hawkins
around. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochotron#History Bill Hawkins P.S. If you'd like to use twin triodes, I have a number of IBM 704 plug-in units with 8 sockets and 4 rows for parts. These can be saved from the dumpster by expressing an interest to b...@iaxs.net. The trochotron counter

Re: [time-nuts] Non electrical time-nuttery

2010-01-09 Thread Bill Hawkins
. This could easily be done with magamps. They were being used in the fifties for integrators in industrial process controllers. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: J. Forster Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:59 PM I don't think MagAmps were much used for logic, but Di-an made a family

Re: [time-nuts] Sparkfun

2010-01-07 Thread Bill Hawkins
As a Tertiary Technician (if any), I resemble that remark. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Mark Sims Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:28 PM All I can say is fill out Central Services/Ministry of Public Works Form 27B/6

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke (Montronics) Model 207-5 WWVB Receiver/Comparator

2010-01-06 Thread Bill Hawkins
My experience with an old phase-locked receiver was that the trim pot for the PLL was way off. Tweaked it a bit, enough to break a film of insulation, and the PLL started working. Wasn't the only problem, tho. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C D-Day

2010-01-03 Thread Bill Hawkins
Bob, That last comment may be why I read everything you write. Happy new year, if you can find any happiness in it . . . Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Bob Camp Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:02 PM Hi I think you have just found the gotcha in all of this. The chains

Re: [time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ?

2009-12-29 Thread Bill Hawkins
. . . Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Dr. David Kirkby Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:19 PM No, I'm quite happy to get cheap electric during the day some times! It's more useful than having it in the middle of the night. So I'm not concerned over this, but just interested what

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium

2009-12-24 Thread Bill Hawkins
with anything but sensed temperature. The micro is simply a matter of programming (SMOP). Good luck finding a converted temperature reading that is stable to 10E-13. But, hey, it's the magic season when the days start to grow longer. Wish all problems were this easy. :-^ Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] are any time-nuts also random-nuts?

2009-12-23 Thread Bill Hawkins
cutoff for audio work. Doesn't seem to have a USB connector, but there's no moving parts. Wish I could say I'd spent hours listening to it's perfect sound stage (noise is indistinguishable from today's music) but I've never turned it on. Holiday cheers, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From

Re: [time-nuts] LAVOIE LA-800D WWV Timebase Receiver

2009-12-21 Thread Bill Hawkins
the context that was missing was that you knew your way around vacuum tube gear. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Dave Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 AM Bill, Thanks for the reply. I do appreciate the offer of help. Do you have anything particular to suggest that I can

Re: [time-nuts] LAVOIE LA-800D WWV Timebase Receiver

2009-12-20 Thread Bill Hawkins
shift with distance. Neat stuff. I'm willing to help you get this fine receiver back in action. Nice workbench. Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net -Original Message- From: Dave Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:03 PM Hi Timenuts, My first email to the list. I've had this LAVOIE LA-800D (see

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz mains clocking in computers

2009-12-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
the amount of code added to the clock interrupt routine. But, I have only studied one of the elephant's legs. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's time reference

2009-12-13 Thread Bill Hawkins
that. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Charles P. Steinmetz Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:52 PM Nigel wrote: I use absolute in the sense that is commonly implied in the term absolute quantity, where an absolute quantity is the measure of the absolute occurence

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's time reference

2009-12-12 Thread Bill Hawkins
of these heavy thoughts . . . Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: gandal...@aol.com Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:47 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's time reference In a message dated 11/12/2009 21:47:28 GMT Standard Time, michael.c...@wanadoo.fr writes

Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's time reference

2009-12-12 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, here's another statement that reveals the nature of time: Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz mains clocking in computers

2009-12-12 Thread Bill Hawkins
and NTP or SNTP when the microprocessors took over. All crystal clocks; time of day (social time) set by anybody with a wristwatch. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: paul swed Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:09 PM Talk about dusting off the old brain cells. I seem to remember

Re: [time-nuts] Chooses for a desktop/server NTP external 1PPSreference

2009-12-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
that has been written off as obsolete. But there are enough us who will buy to keep the price from dropping to that of a consumer atomic, radio controlled clock. YMMV, as they say. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Alexander Sack Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:20 AM

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C simulator operational

2009-12-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
Anyone know about the LORAN-C Monitor, part of the Austron System 5000? Anyone want it? Two digital displays and a rectangular scope. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin

Re: [time-nuts] Chooses for a desktop/server NTP external 1PPSreference

2009-12-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
don't have to do anything to make it work. Ah, well, there was the summer project to repair the RG-8 connections to the cone antennas. Were the Lucent boxes a flash in the pan? Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe

Re: [time-nuts] Chooses for a desktop/server NTPexternal 1PPSreference

2009-12-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
frequency was far enough off that it never locked up, but I ran out of time (or rather, other more interesting things came along) and I haven't checked that theory out. John Bill Hawkins said the following on 12/08/2009 08:38 PM: Friends, Whatever happened to those Lucent RFTD-m- XO

Re: [time-nuts] Re; Stinky Z3801

2009-12-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
Do you have a cat? Has it learned to teleport urine? Since the oscillator/inner oven can is sealed, how can you smell it? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Green Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:39 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Alternate frequency sources : DVB-T and ISDN?

2009-11-24 Thread Bill Hawkins
day. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of phil Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:02 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Alternate frequency sources : DVB-T

Re: [time-nuts] Alternate frequency sources - second opinions

2009-11-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
at 50 ohms. Probably not, since even crystal oscillators do better than NTP. Beat one against WWV and you were good to 10-7 or so. Mills was working on microsecond accuracy five years ago. Where does NTP stand now? Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] The Demise of LORAN (was Re: Reference oscillatoraccuracy)

2009-11-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
not into Alice's rabbit hole, but a rat hole with an infinite number of twisty little passages, all somewhat alike. The decision was made, some time ago. The time for discussion has passed. Please return the list to its subject matter. YMMV Bill Hawkins

Re: [time-nuts] Calculating frequency differences using Lissajoufigures

2009-11-07 Thread Bill Hawkins
. That would not be a Lissajous figure, though. You would still need to observe any changes, unless you are certain that the frequency difference will maintain the same sign. I guess that's what drives people to buy GPIB interface cards and spend hours making the whole thing work correctly. Bill

Re: [time-nuts] WWV Clock

2009-11-02 Thread Bill Hawkins
Um, the time change takes place at 2 AM in the USA, springing ahead to 3 AM or falling back to 1 AM. This avoids repeating the date in the fall. Surely, other cultures don't do it differently, do they? ;-) Bill Hawkins It's widely true that the time of minimum human activity is 4:30 AM. Why

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