Actually, some old dynamite that is leaking an oily liquid
is a sure-fire way to get a flash. Just don't drop it.
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From: Bill Hawkins [mailto:b...@iaxs.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 4:39 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject
a larger span of ideas. All of
them will not appeal to you, so you use the delete key more often. But
aren't you also saving useful things more often?
Bill Hawkins
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From: Rex
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:53 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency
with pulsar
phase relationships -- if you could locate the pulsars and
predict their behavior at that time.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Magnus Danielson
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:42 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again
On 10/30/2010 04:48 PM
Well, I've always thought that the reason that there are
quantum dimensions, like the Planck time, is because we
are living in a very high-class computer simulation. There
has to be granularity at some level.
Happy Halloween
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun
it stops in December 2012.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Raj
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:17 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again
T=0 could be a recent supernova for a secular short measurement span
considering
$1000
for our Kilowatt Eraser. Kill-o-Watt, heh heh.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Perry Sandeen
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:52 PM
To: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Time of death-Again
Gents,
Wrote: If you want a sub-microsecond time of death, sit
that would break the loop.
The Amplifier probably isn't the one after the integrator, but is
the one that amplifies the output of the physics package. In a Rb
standard, the physics package is the phase detector for the PLL.
Bill Hawkins
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From: ewkeh...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday
with
not knowing when you will die. Your loved ones can get bank loans
based on what's in your will. It's a win-win situation, as long
as the sword doesn't miss.
Happy Halloween,
Bill Hawkins
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. Where would you put it? (S. Wright)
It would take an extraordinary ego to believe that anyone would
care about your exact time of death.
Bill Hawkins
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The items have been sold to a local buyer.
I'm an old man looking to lighten the load that anchors me here,
not a dealer willing to ship anywhere.
Thanks for your interest.
Bill Hawkins
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work with WWVB, I have a Spectracom 60KHz
receiver and extras in a Tektronix rack or a Fluke 207 for
sale at moving sale prices. I never thought there'd be any
interest.
Bill Hawkins
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Behalf Of Bob
KHz signal from nearby CRT monitors.
My QTH is Minneapolis, MN, not that far from Fort Collins, CO.
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Perry Sandeen
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:44 PM
To: time-nuts
bill went
up. The problem is shipping. Case has Cs warnings, but they may no
longer be a problem.
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Perry Sandeen
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:15 PM
To: time-nuts-requ
Ah, John, that's wonderful. A weekend without addressing any problems?
I'd maim for that.
Bill Hawkins
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From: John Ackermann N8UR
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:20 PM
snip
I'm traveling over the weekend so won't be able to address any problems,
but if anyone has
it's
between the heater and the sensor.
One other thing - dead time will destabilize the control loop,
when there's too much delay between the heater's heat being
sensed by the thermistor. This is usually a location problem.
Bill Hawkins
(50 years in industrial process control)
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. (Thin reference to time in Hamlet)
Bill Hawkins
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From: Brooke Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 11:24 AM
Hi Gerald:
It turns out the the long term drift spec of a gyro depends (using a
large power law, far from linear) on it's volume. See:
http://www.prc68.com/I
, and nobody thought anything of it.
Sigh.
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:19 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts
have some idea of how time is adjusted for GPS. Does anyone know
how and when MSL is adjusted? I mean, 1.3m is quite a lot.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Thomas A. Frank
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:57 PM
On Sep 5, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Steve Rooke wrote:
Meant to add, my
Darn the bad luck. I thought you had them for sale.
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From: David C. Partridge
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Maintenance manual for Racal 1998 and 1999 universal
counter timers
I'm looking for this - has any one found a copy in the wild?
Is that anything like an Interocitor?
Bill Hawkins
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From: Corby Dawson
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:48 PM
- snip --
I also had to replace the disassociator oscillator with an
oscillator/amplifier of my own design
need to
have one millisecond resolution? That's a testosterone question.
How much am I willing to pay? I dunno, how much are you willing to offer?
Bill Hawkins
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From: Hal Murray
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:39 AM
b...@iaxs.net said:
I'm involved with time
Merci beaucoup, mike.
I hadn't done the right record-keeping to discover the actual units.
They've been running for 6-7 years, not two, so that works out.
Bill Hawkins
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From: mike cook
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:44 AM
Le 29/08/2010 04:26, Hal Murray a écrit
Have a pair of Z3801a receivers and GPSCon. The running time
readout for both is greater than 16,000. They were around 5,000
when I got them from somewhere south of here.
What kind of numbers do you have?
Bill Hawkins
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the control systems to be
synchronized in time, so that messages sent periodically
through the data diodes will have the correct time stamp
on various events that occur in the process.
But does that work everywhere all of the time? Where can
I find answers?
Thanks in advance, as we used to say.
Bill
You'd think that something at the edge of a continent that moved
up and down that much every month would break off.
Wait, it's rock all the way down.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Brooke Clarke
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:34 PM
---snip---
I didn't know the Moon tides can
Point of reference: A Garmin GPSMAP 60CSx will give you a GPS
azimuth once your speed in a straight line is above 10 MPH.
Not recommending it, just an observation.
Bill Hawkins
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:43 AM
Stanley,
how about the TIME-GURU name?
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Many thanks for posting that. I'll think about it and reply to you.
My first thought is that if you were born with the genes for a
creative brain, you just naturally want to take things apart.
Meanwhile, back to taking apart this frequency synthesizer.
Bill Hawkins
or sinusoidal. Perhaps they don't train reporters to
ask good questions anymore.
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Howard
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:16 PM
To: Chris Howard
Cc: Discussion of precise time
Scroll to the bottom of the first list, or search for 'LC tanks'
Don't know why Bruce's link doesn't work, but I get 404 - file not found.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Stanley Reynolds
http://risorse.dei.polimi.it/digital/pubblications.html
then scroll down
Stanley
That's my kind of clock, but not my kind of money.
Anybody have one that's used, repairable? :)
Bill Hawkins
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From: Neville Michie
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:44 PM
Have a look at this clock.
Cheers, Neville Michie
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/07
, and
more often than twice a year.
Good luck getting the scheduled world to adopt Meccan time, even
if Mecca is declared to be the navel of the Arab world.
Bill Hawkins
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Ahhh, this is more like it! Large gears and thick ropes moving
heavy weights up and down. :)
Of course, you wouldn't want anything digital doing this. Just
a large pendulum clock driving a maze of gears that calculate
solar and lunar positions.
Bill Hawkins
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From: J
of the ball and omit the railing. That is, if I had the
money, ah, and the building. And my own country, where allowing idiots
to breed was illegal.
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Camp
Sent: Thursday
present unemployment levels, you may be able to hire a person to
deliver
impulses to the bob as required. But most of the world has automated such
systems because people are not reliable.
Heck, you could build a pendulum and a metaphor for our times.
Best regards,
Bill Hawkins (also on Jack's BA list
In my world, successive gains multiply, not add.
A series of three gains of 10 gives a gain of 1000, not 30.
What am I missing?
Bill Hawkins
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From: Magnus Danielson
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:58 AM
What you get is a scale error. Consider that you have
.
If you see less than 5 volts, that's RS-232 and all should be well, unless
you see zero volts.
I may have the RS-xxx volts somewhat off because my memory isn't what it
used to be.
The guy you bought it from should be able to help with comm basics.
Bill Hawkins
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From: time
the output to oscillate, as will a long derivative
time.
How are you calculating damping?
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Camp
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:22 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency
A, Ulrich, lad, I, Bill Hawkins, kin to Jim Hawkins and the pirates 0f
Treasure Island, do pardon you, though you really should have resisted.
(Understanding pirates is key to understanding today's economy.)
The pardon is easy, because I have at times ridiculed something that I did
Why, yes it does. Marvelous what you can do with Photoshop.
Everything technical that Evans has is untested. What a gamble.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Bob Camp
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:13 PM
Hi
Looks like a clean unit.
Bob
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From: gonzo
See lines prefaced by wh below. Friday the 13th falls on Tuesday
this week.
Bill Hawkins
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From: J. Forster
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:28 AM
To: Mike Feher
Cc: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: [time-nuts] OT: Re Technology. Was Naval
second.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Thomas A. Frank
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync problems
In this case, the reference clock appears to refer to GPS
the article implied that their reference clock was a wall
clock somehow driven by some signal from some satellite. GPS wasn't
mentioned.
Bill Hawkins
BSME MIT 1960 (minor EE) (would have majored in EE but the old
rotating machinery was torn out and replaced by vector math)
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as a shaded pole induction motor,
at less than synchronous speed.
Seeking precision time can indeed take some strange directions.
Bill Hawkins
Don't understand the reference to huskies? Google Challenge of the
Yukon or Sergeant Preston
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From: Brooke Clarke
Sent
thrones, or something like that.]
Thanks, Brooke. I had some fun explaining all this.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Brooke Clarke
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:58 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts] Yukon Energy causes time sync
Ah, to be on topic, the floopy drive would have to be the engine of
a time machine that specialized in loops. Perhaps closed, time-like
curves.
Bill Hawkins
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From: J. L. Trantham
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:17 PM
BTW, how 'floopy' does a drive have
doesn't have much to say.
Any clues about how to survive when chile peppers kill the sense of taste?
There are some Italian restaurants around in the cities. Sopapillas don't
make much of a dinner.
Thanks,
Bill Hawkins
b...@iaxs.net
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.
Perhaps my brain is darkening with age . . .
Bill Hawkins
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From: Corby Dawson
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 4:11 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5065A rubidium lifetime
I have been repairing HP 5065A for over 20 years and have never had a
failure due
Chuck,
How did you get to the bulb?
I thought the RVFR was a sealed assembly.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Chuck Harris
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:52 AM
The bulb on my HP5065A was silver gray in color when I had it out
of the oven. It still had plenty of output
.
Probability being what it is, there's probably a NIB unit sitting
in some warehouse somewhere that will make someone rich beyond
their wildest dreams. More likely, it went to a landfill.
Regards,
Bill Hawkins
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From: Peter Vince
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:55 AM
in 2008.
Google is no help when looking for an RVFR package. Thinking about
using an LPRO to maintain the function within the classic HP package.
Is anyone else still using a 5065A?
Can the RVFR be replaced?
Bill Hawkins
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it. Then they split
up. In April 2005, they went back to it.
Celebrate the touch of madness - Spring ahead, gorge on Pi, drink to St.
Patrick.
Yours for making March interesting,
Bill Hawkins
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to. Won't need expensive counters, either.
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1/ There are no sources of constant frequency. Approximations to that
goal may be measured by their cost.
2/ There is no single mechanism, unless it's quantum mechanics.
Bill Hawkins
This message has been fact checked by a 9 year old with a Twitter account.
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From
Rock I take to be crystal. How about gas and air?
Bill Hawkins
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From: Magnus Danielson
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:15 PM
To: p...@b737.co.uk; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] My DIY frequency counter and a request
Whack! (sound of hand hitting forehead)
Gas must be Ru and Cs.
How do you run your pneumatic clocks?
Bill Hawkins
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From: Bill Hawkins [mailto:b...@iaxs.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:34 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement';
'p
This reference showed up in a radio list from a reliable source (Jerry
Proc):
http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/2010/02/radio-amateur-volunteers-to-save-l
oran.html
Bill Hawkins
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Sorry, this appears to be a hoax. Jerry is Canadian and perhaps not
familiar with US politics. Searching for LORAN saved gets no recent
hits except for this article. One person on the list asked if it was
the first of April already (April Fool's Day).
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From: Bill Hawkins
-5900
www.navcen.uscg.gov
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From: Bill Hawkins
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:25 PM
Sorry, this appears to be a hoax. Jerry is Canadian and perhaps not
familiar with US politics. Searching for LORAN saved gets no recent
hits except for this article. One person
. There's a reason why
engineers are familiar with not having resources to do it right the first
time.
Darn, the soap box broke.
Bill Hawkins
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From: paul swed
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:07 PM
Sure they might take a check for $36M or so.
As they have said
No thanks, George.
If I bought one, I'd have to use Lady Heather, and I'd never use a lady.
Bill Hawkins
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From: George Dubovsky
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 1:58 PM
I have three, essentially new Trimble Thunderbolt OEM boards for sale.
...
73,
geo - n4ua
.
Of course, if you sell it you won't be able to see that.
Bill Hawkins
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is:
http://www.kensingtonclock.com/kcsadjust.htm
Look down near the bottom of the article where a figure shows the
three types - A, B, and C. There's a few paragraphs about the
striking mechanism, and then all is revealed.
Thanks for maintaining a very informative site.
Bill Hawkins
O.T.P.S
a BSME from MIT in 1960. Bought a pneumatic clock
to see how it worked and gave it away.
Western Union got involved in this because they used existing telegraph
lines to do the hourly synchronization. Not likely to be low voltage,
even with a repeater relay in the building.
Bill Hawkins
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just full of shared ignorance.
Bill Hawkins
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From: J. Forster
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:05 PM
To: Bruce Griffiths
Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Conducting Bench Top Material
Among chemists, it's flour
and a chicken. There's 16 between homo sap and a chimp. The
story of the genes that make our brain case bigger than an
ape's was a real surprise. No affiliation with PBS.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Neville Michie
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:33 PM
DNA is a pattern
I'm not learning anything from this thread because I don't know the
purpose of DMTD or how it would produce a beat note for a phase error.
Now, DTMF I understand.
Bill Hawkins
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Darn, another one who can't tell ionizing radiation from electromagnetic
radiation.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Mark Sims
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:36 PM
That third eyeball growing out of your forehead really is quite becoming
math.
Ah, I don't think or -1,211 arcmin per day or -0,44 arcmin per year
is correct. More change per day than per year? What have I missed?
FWIW,
Bill Hawkins
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From: Magnus Danielson
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:48 PM
While displaying Hour Minutes and Seconds
come from GPScon for 07 to 23 UTC on the 15th.
Unit 1 EFC ad=1.43, sd=5.39, TI av =-0.48n, sd = 16.1n
Unit 2 EFC ad=1.29, sd=12.7, TI av =-0.23n, sd = 15.6n
I expect that any eclipse effect was lost in the noise, but I don't
know if my units are abnormally noisy or not.
Bill Hawkins
support.
What a great day for thought experiments.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Hal Murray
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:28 PM
But consider 100,000 pendulums that are all right-on and then the
temperature
changes.
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My guess, as a mechanical engineer from MIT in 1960, is that light
damping is required to allow the pendulum to settle to its natural
frequency after being started.
The Brownian Motion thing is also correct for radiometers. You need
some molecules, but not many.
Bill Hawkins
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Ah, but a man with 14 standards can use statistics!
Sorry.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Nic McLean
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:12 PM
Can I coin the phrase; A man that has one DC Voltage standard knows how
accurate his meter is, whereas a man with two standards
Torsion pendula don't depend on the relatively constant force
of gravity. Compensating the torsion spring constant is rather
different from compensating length.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Bob Camp
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 3:52 PM
Hi
Yes, that's the idea.
I suspect
Only need one tube for a ring counter - the trochotron (q.v.).
Just happen to have a military counter based on them, nixie display,
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: Saturday, January 09
around.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochotron#History
Bill Hawkins
P.S. If you'd like to use twin triodes, I have a number of IBM 704
plug-in units with 8 sockets and 4 rows for parts. These can be
saved from the dumpster by expressing an interest to b...@iaxs.net.
The trochotron counter
.
This could easily be done with magamps. They were being used in
the fifties for integrators in industrial process controllers.
Bill Hawkins
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From: J. Forster
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:59 PM
I don't think MagAmps were much used for logic, but Di-an made a family
As a Tertiary Technician (if any), I resemble that remark.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Mark Sims
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:28 PM
All I can say is fill out Central Services/Ministry of Public Works Form
27B/6
My experience with an old phase-locked receiver was that the trim pot
for the PLL was way off. Tweaked it a bit, enough to break a film of
insulation, and the PLL started working. Wasn't the only problem, tho.
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time
Bob,
That last comment may be why I read everything you write.
Happy new year, if you can find any happiness in it . . .
Bill Hawkins
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From: Bob Camp
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:02 PM
Hi
I think you have just found the gotcha in all of this.
The chains
. . .
Bill Hawkins
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From: Dr. David Kirkby
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:19 PM
No, I'm quite happy to get cheap electric during the day some times! It's
more
useful than having it in the middle of the night. So I'm not concerned over
this, but just interested what
with anything but sensed temperature. The micro is simply a
matter of programming (SMOP).
Good luck finding a converted temperature reading that is stable to
10E-13. But, hey, it's the magic season when the days start to grow
longer.
Wish all problems were this easy. :-^
Bill Hawkins
cutoff for audio work.
Doesn't seem to have a USB connector, but there's no moving parts.
Wish I could say I'd spent hours listening to it's perfect sound
stage (noise is indistinguishable from today's music) but I've never
turned it on.
Holiday cheers,
Bill Hawkins
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From
the context
that was missing was that you knew your way around vacuum tube gear.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Dave
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 AM
Bill,
Thanks for the reply. I do appreciate the offer of help. Do you have
anything particular to suggest that I can
shift with distance. Neat stuff.
I'm willing to help you get this fine receiver back in action.
Nice workbench.
Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net
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From: Dave
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:03 PM
Hi Timenuts,
My first email to the list. I've had this LAVOIE LA-800D (see
the amount
of code added to the clock interrupt routine.
But, I have only studied one of the elephant's legs.
Bill Hawkins
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that.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Charles P. Steinmetz
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:52 PM
Nigel wrote:
I use absolute in the sense that is commonly implied in the term
absolute quantity, where an absolute quantity is the measure of
the absolute occurence
of these heavy thoughts . . .
Bill Hawkins
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From: gandal...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:47 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Beginner's time reference
In a message dated 11/12/2009 21:47:28 GMT Standard Time,
michael.c...@wanadoo.fr writes
Well, here's another statement that reveals the nature of time:
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Bill Hawkins
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NTP or SNTP when the microprocessors took over. All crystal clocks; time
of day (social time) set by anybody with a wristwatch.
Bill Hawkins
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From: paul swed
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:09 PM
Talk about dusting off the old brain cells.
I seem to remember
that has been
written off as obsolete. But there are enough us who will buy to keep the
price
from dropping to that of a consumer atomic, radio controlled clock.
YMMV, as they say.
Bill Hawkins
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From: Alexander Sack
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:20 AM
Anyone know about the LORAN-C Monitor, part of the Austron System 5000?
Anyone want it? Two digital displays and a rectangular scope.
Bill Hawkins
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don't have to do anything to make it work. Ah, well,
there was the summer project to repair the RG-8 connections to the cone
antennas.
Were the Lucent boxes a flash in the pan?
Bill Hawkins
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frequency was far enough off that it never locked up, but I ran
out of time (or rather, other more interesting things came along) and I
haven't checked that theory out.
John
Bill Hawkins said the following on 12/08/2009 08:38 PM:
Friends,
Whatever happened to those Lucent RFTD-m- XO
Do you have a cat? Has it learned to teleport urine?
Since the oscillator/inner oven can is sealed, how can you smell it?
Bill Hawkins
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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of John Green
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:39 PM
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Bill Hawkins
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Behalf Of phil
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:02 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Alternate frequency sources : DVB-T
at 50 ohms.
Probably not, since even crystal oscillators do better than NTP. Beat
one against WWV and you were good to 10-7 or so.
Mills was working on microsecond accuracy five years ago. Where does
NTP stand now?
Bill Hawkins
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not into Alice's rabbit hole, but a
rat hole with an infinite number of twisty little passages, all somewhat
alike. The decision was made, some time ago. The time for discussion has
passed. Please return the list to its subject matter.
YMMV
Bill Hawkins
. That
would not be a Lissajous figure, though.
You would still need to observe any changes, unless you are certain that
the frequency difference will maintain the same sign. I guess that's what
drives people to buy GPIB interface cards and spend hours making the whole
thing work correctly.
Bill
Um, the time change takes place at 2 AM in the USA, springing ahead to
3 AM or falling back to 1 AM. This avoids repeating the date in the fall.
Surely, other cultures don't do it differently, do they? ;-)
Bill Hawkins
It's widely true that the time of minimum human activity is 4:30 AM.
Why
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