Re: [time-nuts] suggestions on getting 24 Mhz ?

2018-05-09 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks Tim. All the best Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com 604 762 4099 > On May 9, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Tim Tuck wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > this is a product of Glen VK1XX. > he will have a website with eCommerce up soon and when that happens I will > announce it to the

Re: [time-nuts] suggestions on getting 24 Mhz ?

2018-05-08 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi would anyone be able to point me (off list) in the direction of a bit more information re this device ? Many thanks Mark S m...@alignedsolutions.com 604 762 4099 > On May 8, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Tim Tuck wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > You probably want this... > > https://github.com/glenenglish

Re: [time-nuts] nuts about position

2018-04-25 Thread Mark Spencer
ly need an accurately surveyed starting point. Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com 604 762 4099 > On Apr 25, 2018, at 8:06 AM, George Watson wrote: > > Create your own DGPS? > > Trimble is good at this. > > George K. Watson > K0IW > >> On Apr 25, 2018, at

Re: [time-nuts] TV Signals as a frequency reference

2018-03-31 Thread Mark Spencer
Yes I actually purchased two such devices from Ebay a while back. (They contained nice PRS10 Rb oscillators.) Mark Spencer Aligned Solutions Co. m...@alignedsolutions.com 604 762 4099 > On Mar 31, 2018, at 12:09 PM, Ruslan Nabioullin wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:38 A

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Vectron 218Y44442

2017-10-16 Thread Mark Spencer
I've experienced this with products with simple crystal oscillators. (Ie. Tap or bang the unit to get the oscillator to start oscillating.) Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com 604 762 4099 > On Oct 16, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Vlad wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am wande

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna Feed Line Decision

2017-09-04 Thread Mark Spencer
Although not time nuts related I believe this document speaks to some of the practical issues... http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-6297.pdf Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com > On Sep 3, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Mark Sims wrote: > > Real time nuts run phase sta

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna Feed Line Decision

2017-09-03 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi. The last time I looked at upgrading my GPS antenna feed line (I'm currently using RG58 style cable) I spent some time looking at the temperature vs propagation delay characteristics of various cables. I also picked up a spool of cloned "LMR400 style" cable but ended up using that for my am

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Spencer
Nice post Tom. I was also wondering about the replacement hardware vs software patch issue. Just speculation on my part but perhaps changing the software involves an extensive QA / test process, vs swapping out a piece of hardware ? Again this is just pure speculation on my part. Mark

Re: [time-nuts] Power connectors continued

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Spencer
SMA connectors for example. The issue of power connectors with locking devices is also in my view quite relevant to time nuts. The dialogue vis a vis power pole connectors has also been one of the best I have ever seen on the Internet. Thanks all Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com &g

Re: [time-nuts] Power connectors continued

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Spencer
duct available from ITT > Cannon as well as AMP. > > Cheers, > Magnus > >> On 06/22/2017 08:42 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: >> Sorry if I have caused any un due confusion thru my perhaps incorrect use of >> the terms "cannon" and "XLR." >> The gree

[time-nuts] Power connectors continued

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Spencer
ate female contacts was what I perhaps incorrectly referred to as a "XLR" connector. Both were in use in my lab powering time nuts gear. Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To uns

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Spencer
encountered equipment that allowed for that specific use case via hermaphroditic connectors. It is still a good point however. Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com 604 762 4099 > On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist > wrote: > > No one has brought up

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Spencer
I believe the "AMP" connectors you are referring to are what I would call a "Cannon" connector. A good choice for that application IMHO. Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com > On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:47 AM, Bob Bownes wrote: > > Right Tool for the Job. >

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Spencer
This good information. Thanks Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com > On Jun 22, 2017, at 7:27 AM, Mike Seguin wrote: > > NL2 etc 40A > > They typically run about $3 per connector. I use them on high power Solid > State amps. (VHF and up) > > Mike > >

Re: [time-nuts] Anderson PowerPole (was Charles Wenzel GPSDO)

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Spencer
some applications. I strongly dislike the use of "phono plugs" and PL259 connectors for power supply applications. All the best Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com > On Jun 22, 2017, at 5:57 AM, Wes wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > I said I use PPs but I don't

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: GPSDO

2017-03-20 Thread Mark Spencer
e but for my hobby use it seems to work ok for me. I've more or less shelved my plans to discipline one of my high end OCXO's via a home brew GPSDO scheme. Mark Spencer > On Mar 14, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > > >> On Mar 14, 2017, at 6:33 PM, T

Re: [time-nuts] Smart Phone time display accuracy...?

2017-03-16 Thread Mark Spencer
>From occasional observations of my IPhone 5 using the emerald sequoia emerald >time application the "within 50 milliseconds" claim seems quite reasonable to >me. Mark Spencer > On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > Apple Support claims

Re: [time-nuts] wifi with time sync

2017-01-14 Thread Mark Spencer
but in my experience it seems to have fallen out of common use these days. All the best Mark Spencer > On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > > >> On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Chris Albertson >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at

Re: [time-nuts] wifi with time sync

2017-01-13 Thread Mark Spencer
as a "figure of merit." Best regards Mark Spencer Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > > What standard protocol would you recommend I run from the command line on my > computer > to get a quick estimate of the timing lag and v

Re: [time-nuts] TICC Timestamping / Time Interval Counter -- Available to Order

2017-01-05 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks John. I just placed an order. All the best Mark S VE7AFZ Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:45 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > > I'm happy to report that TAPR is now accepting orders for the TICC > timestamping / time interval counter. We've placed an order with the > con

Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage - USA

2017-01-04 Thread Mark Spencer
voltage drop on those circuits was negligible. (I also had the electrical service upgraded which involved larger supply conductors to the house which in turn would also have had less voltage drop.) Good luck. Mark Spencer > On Jan 4, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microw

Re: [time-nuts] new year crashes

2017-01-02 Thread Mark Spencer
I never had any exposure to those connections. Best regards Mark Spencer > > How can they get a delay that long? Satellite link? > > Fiber is 5 microseconds per km. So 1000 km is 5 ms. > > -- > These are my o

Re: [time-nuts] new year crashes

2017-01-01 Thread Mark Spencer
"emergency" systems ? Are there "leap second" test sets that non time nuts could use to generate leap second events during pre commissioning tests ? (I'm envisioning some form of NTP server that could generate leap second events on command ?) Best regards Mark Spencer Sent f

Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage [Was: Anyone (ideally in the UK) ...]

2017-01-01 Thread Mark Spencer
em to be accepted at face value by the individuals I've been dealing with. Data collected from UPS systems doesn't seem to be as well accepted. Mark Spencer > On Jan 1, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) > wrote: > >> On 1 Jan 2017 11:10, &q

Re: [time-nuts] How phase stable is rg59 or alternate coax

2016-11-21 Thread Mark Spencer
enum rated RG58. The bulk of my cable run is indoors where the temperature is fairly stable. Regards Mark Spencer > On Nov 21, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Scott Stobbe wrote: > > When I first took a look at some of the coax datasheets I couldn't find > anything. I was able to find

Re: [time-nuts] Thinking outside the box a super reference

2016-11-03 Thread Mark Spencer
On a somewhat related note Several years ago I pondering getting a Cs standard. After considering the performance of my references and my stack of time interval counters I concluded that in practice I could more or less get the level of measurement accuracy I wanted by comparing the "devi

Re: [time-nuts] Temp/Humidity control systems?

2016-10-26 Thread Mark Spencer
believe my unit features any humidity control. Hope this is of some interest. Mark Spencer > On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:58 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > >> On 10/26/2016 1:00 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: >>> On 10/26/2016 8:59 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: >>>

Re: [time-nuts] HP 59309A Clock runs, sets via GPIB, but no GPIB output?

2016-10-07 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi in the (probably unlikely) event another tester would help I have a 59309a and a spare prologix gpib / Ethernet adaptor. I may try this code out at some point in any event. Best regards Mark S Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > Yes,

Re: [time-nuts] Need Time Help

2016-10-05 Thread Mark Spencer
In practice I'm not convinced the timing requirements for the JT modes in question are even more than a single order of magnitude more severe than the when I have been timing 15 second sequences on my wrist watch during manual non computer aided weak signal operations. To recap if some one has

Re: [time-nuts] Need Time Help

2016-10-05 Thread Mark Spencer
Yes I'd be curious in knowing more about this as well. I've often observed time differences from other stations of several tenths of a second when running the JT modes on HF. Although I am beginner at EME I have made a couple of EME (earth moon earth) JT65 contacts on VHF without taking any sp

Re: [time-nuts] A new take on the all-hardware GPSDO concept

2016-09-16 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi Lars. I own a G3RUH (Miller) GPSDO. >From what I can recall While testing mine with my collection of >HP5370B's and my assortment of references the performance of mine while locked >was generally comparable to the one in the link you provided. I never tested >it "un locked." I c

Re: [time-nuts] HP-105B Battery Replacement?

2016-09-15 Thread Mark Spencer
In my experience the commonly seen UPS's that support external batteries expect you to use the batteries supplied (or at least specified) by the manufacturer. That being said I have come across UPS systems that are designed to work with generic user supplied 12 volt batteries but in my expe

Re: [time-nuts] HP-105B Battery Replacement?

2016-09-15 Thread Mark Spencer
ing them, you could still find old electrical forklifts with > Ni-Fe battery made by Edison Batteries in the sixties in the past century the > batteries are still fine. Tudor -- a led-acid battery producer -- purchased > Edison Batteries and closed down the formidable competitor > > 73

Re: [time-nuts] HP-105B Battery Replacement?

2016-09-15 Thread Mark Spencer
They do exist. I've seen them in service at Telecom sites outside of the U.S. and Canada. I believe there was a thread re this a few years ago ? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Jeremy Nichols wrote: > > Since I have a 12V 100 A-H gelled electrolyte battery as a > short-t

Re: [time-nuts] HP-105B Battery Replacement?

2016-09-15 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi I've run my HP105B (with the old style oscillator) from AC power via a consumer grade UPS, 24 Vdc from a lead acid battery bank and briefly from the internal battery pack with out any notable changes in performance (that being said I can't measure phase noise so this observation may or may no

Re: [time-nuts] The home time-lab

2016-07-08 Thread Mark Spencer
ery system as well. Using my HP5370's I've never been able to detect a difference in performance of my OCXO's running on battery power vs AC line power (or DC supplied from an HP linear supply in the case of the BVA.) All the best Mark Spencer Sent from my iPhone > On Jul

Re: [time-nuts] HF frequency counting receiver

2016-06-20 Thread Mark Spencer
To echo the point that Jim Lux made in another post... I'm not sure how those of us who live an appreciable distance from the transmitters can expect to get mili hertz accuracy in light of the HF Doppler shift over long distance paths with restorting to tactics such as simultaneously monitorin

Re: [time-nuts] RG6 or LMR400 for GPS Antenna (Symmetricom 58532A and T-bolt)

2016-04-21 Thread Mark Spencer
That is more or less the same method I use for my amateur radio activities. Home Depot in Canada sells similar 3M products which is helpful during quick weekend projects. Professionally I've seen other methods used but on my own time I like the "splicing tape" covered with super "33 tape" app

Re: [time-nuts] A new member & PN test set

2016-03-28 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi Oleg, I'd be interested in seeing more information about your phase noise measurement setup. All the best Mark Spencer VE7AFZ Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 27, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Oleg Skydan wrote: > > Hi list, > > I am in a process of making a low noise frequency syn

Re: [time-nuts] Fw: 5065

2016-03-19 Thread Mark Spencer
For those of us in Western Canada, I've purchased circular connectors at MRO electronics. Best regards Mark Spencer Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > Also Allied Electronics... If I knew it was CPCs y'all were talking > about...

Re: [time-nuts] Best Rubidium Frequency Standard

2016-03-12 Thread Mark Spencer
All the best Mark Spencer Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > > jerry wrote: > >> Is there any model-suffix or other identifier that would inform whether a >> used PRS-10 has the PPS sync input feature?? > > No

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Outage..

2016-02-27 Thread Mark Spencer
I entered the time nuts hobby I saw lots of ex Telecom timing gear for sale on the usual auction site. All the best Mark Spencer > On Feb 27, 2016, at 4:51 AM, Bob Camp wrote: > > Hi > >> On Feb 26, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 26

Re: [time-nuts] Introduction

2016-02-24 Thread Mark Spencer
I've found with my HP5370B's they perform best over a fairly narrow range of input signal levels.(1 to 2 volts If I recall correctly ?) Some experiments might be in order for yours. Virtually all my testing was done with 5 or 10 MHz sine waves so this may or may not be helpful in your cas

Re: [time-nuts] Abstract for consideration at 2016 New Mexico TechFest

2015-12-29 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi Cash. Here is a bit of a narrative and some comments from an amateur radio perspective. I got into the time nuts hobby as off shoot from amateur radio. I was using a pc sound card to evaluate the frequency stability of some of my ham radios by looking at the change in "beat note" when

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise from Allan Deviation ?

2015-12-14 Thread Mark Spencer
Yes. I was not overly pleased with the performance of my 2700's. I ended up pulling the PRS10 out of one of them and purchased the breakout connector board from SRS and used the resulting 10 MHz and 1 PPS outputs.From time to time I would sync the unit to one of my GPSDO's using the 1 PP

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-08 Thread Mark Spencer
I looked up the part number of the cable I installed and the data sheet says it does have Teflon insulation. It does look different than other Teflon cables I have seen though. My main concern was and is the fire rating. The comments about the phase stability are also of interest. If anyone

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-07 Thread Mark Spencer
Actually I may be misremembering this.Am not sure if the cable I used was Teflon on not. It did have a defined fire rating though, and I was concerned about it's phase stability vis a vis temperatures. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: >

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-07 Thread Mark Spencer
e the interconnection issues if you can live with the impedance miss match. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Bruce Griffiths > wrote: > >> On Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:02:43 AM Mark Spencer wrote: >> I've seen data re delay vs temperature for high end 50

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-06 Thread Mark Spencer
Try not to laugh to hard but the compression connectors and crimper for RG6 style cables I picked up at Home Depot in Canada a few years ago seems to work quite well. I have used high quality pro tools at work over the years (mostly though I watch other people use them on occasion these days

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-06 Thread Mark Spencer
Sat, 5 Dec 2015 17:06:03 -0800 > Mark Spencer wrote: > >> Over the years I've used a number of CATV style 75 ohm patch cords >> with F connectors, F female to female couplers and F to other connector >> adaptors to distribute gps signals from my GPS splitter to variou

Re: [time-nuts] RG 6 U couplings

2015-12-05 Thread Mark Spencer
Over the years I've used a number of CATV style 75 ohm patch cords with F connectors, F female to female couplers and F to other connector adaptors to distribute gps signals from my GPS splitter to various receivers. I've never been able to notice any difference in reported signal strength vs

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 1 PPS Out having random phase jumps

2015-11-23 Thread Mark Spencer
I don't recall ever having this issue with mine. As a general rule though I seemed to have more success using 5 and 10 MHz reference signals vs 1 pps reference signals with my HP5370's and HP5335's when making Adev measurements of 5 and 10 MHz OCXO's. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2015, at

Re: [time-nuts] UPS for my time rack

2015-10-13 Thread Mark Spencer
Sorry for a somewhat Non time nuts posting but this topic seems to have drawn a lot of interest. I found the Microsoft article fascinating. Thanks for sharing. Re DC power. I've seen some computing equipment that ran from -48 volts DC but to expand on the comments from PHK about DC power

Re: [time-nuts] UPS for my time rack

2015-10-11 Thread Mark Spencer
Yes this is a complex topic. At one point in my career when I was responsible for the up time of several data centres for a high tech firm I had an Electrical Engineer on my team to (amongst other roles) work thru the various issues pertaining to UPS systems. I recall there were significant

Re: [time-nuts] UPS for my time rack

2015-10-11 Thread Mark Spencer
I'm fortunate that several of pieces of my time nuts gear (including two of my ocxo's) feature backup 24 volt dc power inputs. They were the only things in my house that stayed running during a recent 2 day power outage while I was away. I have two large 12 volt gel cells in series that I re

Re: [time-nuts] UPS for my time rack

2015-10-11 Thread Mark Spencer
I've also seen inverter systems that are designed for stand by power use in service at commercial sites in third world countries. Within reason they basically let you run what ever reasonable arrangement of rechargeable lead acid based batteries you want that will supply the required voltage an

Re: [time-nuts] UPS for my time rack

2015-10-10 Thread Mark Spencer
gards Mark S Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 10, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mark Spencer wrote: > > A quick comment about "pure sine" devices. > > At times I operate a portable VHF and up radio system from rf quiet out of > the way places. I run almost all the equipment from le

Re: [time-nuts] UPS for my time rack

2015-10-10 Thread Mark Spencer
A quick comment about "pure sine" devices. At times I operate a portable VHF and up radio system from rf quiet out of the way places. I run almost all the equipment from lead acid storage batteries. I have small 30 dollar inverter I use to occasionally power some equipment that needs 120 v

Re: [time-nuts] UPS for my time rack

2015-10-10 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi over the last 10 years or so I've purchased several consumer / small office grade UPS's from sources such as Staples and Costco. I've never noted any RFI from them but I live in a (rf) noisy urban neighbourhood so any noise they put out is probably hard to notice. Other than occasionally t

Re: [time-nuts] New Symmetricom 58532A antennas - Launch3

2015-10-02 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi I have one of the masts, it's just a piece of tubing. According to the instructions that came with my antenna the mast has an outer diameter of 42mm, I would expect a metal supply store could supply a suitable piece of pipe or tubing ? Hex screws in the base of the antenna clamp the antenn

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 service information ?

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Spencer
rent com ports. > >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark >>>> Spencer >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 4:41 PM >>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measur

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 service information ?

2015-09-08 Thread Mark Spencer
; On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Bob Benward wrote: > > Can you communicate over RS232? Are you using the Z38xx software? What > does it say? > > Bob > >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behal

[time-nuts] Z3805 service information ?

2015-09-01 Thread Mark Spencer
ed in my garage (: Mark Spencer VE7AFZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811 vs 00105 OCXO

2015-08-07 Thread Mark Spencer
nger tau's ? All the best Mark Spencer > On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:37 PM, tim...@timeok.it wrote: > > > here the ADEV of the two oscillator. I have added the Super performance of an > HP105B (old oscillator) bought in an Ham fest. > > Luciano > > > >>

[time-nuts] Bliley Crystal TC92 pinouts ?

2015-07-28 Thread Mark Spencer
e the crystal to oscillate. It looks to be 1950's to 1970's vintage. Any info would be appreciated. Yes I realize I can probably figure things out with an ohm meter (: but thought I would ask first. All the best Mark Spencer Sent from my iPad _

Re: [time-nuts] Greetings from Australia

2015-06-29 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi Brek. In my experience the perceived frequency difference from Doppler shift is of little or no relevance for amateur HF communications. For amateurs involved in activities such as the frequency measurement test I believe it could be at times relevant at HF. There might be a mode where

Re: [time-nuts] Splitters for the GPS antenna

2015-06-29 Thread Mark Spencer
The GPS splitter is spoken for. Thanks Mark Spencer Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: > > Sorry for the thread hi jack. I also have a lightly used Symmetricom 58535A > dual port (one antenna, two receivers) gps splitter I would be happy to

Re: [time-nuts] Jackson labs fury gpsdo with docxo for sale

2015-06-26 Thread Mark Spencer
$750 new. > > Or am I missing something here? > > R > >> On 26 June 2015 at 03:30, Mark Spencer wrote: >> >> Hi I'm wondering if there is any interest in my Jackson labs fury (desktop >> version) with the docxo option. I purchased it new from

Re: [time-nuts] Splitters for the GPS antenna

2015-06-25 Thread Mark Spencer
ricey. Thanks Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Cash Olsen wrote: > > I initially tried using Dishtv splitters with qualified success. On closer > examination the bandpass between dish 1 and dish2 is different and neither >

[time-nuts] Jackson labs fury gpsdo with docxo for sale

2015-06-25 Thread Mark Spencer
I would include the power supply it shipped with from Jackson labs. I'm also looking at selling it via some other channels as well so it may be gone soon. Please contact me off list if you are interested in pursuing this. I'm happy to send photos and provide more details to an intere

Re: [time-nuts] Time in a cave

2015-05-13 Thread Mark Spencer
thing that has been kludged together ? Do you need a Peng or other professional to sign off on the solution ? (In my experience PTP may on occasion be found in industrial settings where a Peng may be required to sign off on the solution.) Mark Spencer On 2015-05-12, at 4:00 PM, "Tucek,

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-13 Thread Mark Spencer
, but need to factor in the cost of my time or that of someone else, plus there is a strong desire to either drop in a COTS "black box" or use a laptop. Thanks for the comments. Sent from my iPad On 2015-05-12, at 3:54 PM, Pete Stephenson wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:11 PM,

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-13 Thread Mark Spencer
so far so I'm moving > forward with a board layout and eventual sale to the list members if there > is any interest (I'm not asking for interest yet). > > -Bob > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Mark Spencer > wrote: > >> Hi sorry for a possibly OT pos

[time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-12 Thread Mark Spencer
C's if there is no wireless coverage. This is for a one off project so piecing together various parts is an option but a single box COTS solution would be nice. I've found a few candidates via web searches but would welcome any feed back. Thanks

Re: [time-nuts] lawnmower robots may be the end of VLF timekeeping

2015-05-11 Thread Mark Spencer
In practice it seems to be hard to fight interference issues at lower frequencies. A local 50,000 watt AM (medium wave) broadcaster, put up a FM (VHF) transmitter several years ago. One of the reasons they gave for going to FM were the interference issues on the AM band. I noticed the newe

Re: [time-nuts] Tymserve 2100 thinks it's 1995?

2015-05-04 Thread Mark Spencer
stion as a possible way to breathe a bitmore life into an older piece of equipment. Regards Mark Spencer ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] HP5328A & HP5328B option 040

2015-04-23 Thread Mark Spencer
If anyone has a burning desire for a HP5328 with a volt meter module (and a GPIB board) please contact me off list. Regards Mark Spencer Sent from my iPad On 2015-04-23, at 3:18 PM, Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: > From your comments, it seems that finding a voltmeter board to add to

Re: [time-nuts] June 30 2015 leap second

2015-01-12 Thread Mark Spencer
I've often wondered why more systems don't use TAI or other similar time scales as their time source. If needed the time displayed to end users or third parties could be converted to UTC just prior to presentation or transmittal. For example a financial system that needs to time stamp individu

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Filters

2014-11-27 Thread Mark Spencer
radio gear are separate but still in the same house. Mark Spencer On 2014-11-27, at 1:47 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > You can also discover interesting things about the transformer it’s self in > some circuits. They do what they do, but they also bring along a new set of > is

[time-nuts] Does adjusting ocxo's degrade adev / madev ?

2014-11-27 Thread Mark Spencer
I've long had a nagging suspicion that OCXO's that are not adjusted will in practice have lower ADEV than ones that are tweaked regularly. Several days ago I noticed that one of my 10811's was performing quite well (I believe this is the first time any of 10811's have delivered adev / madev nu

Re: [time-nuts] lightening protection of a GPSDO system / optical isolated distribution amp

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Spencer
nuts gear. Disclaimer I'm not an electrical engineer or lightning protection expert so please don't rely on this comment. Mark Spencer On 2014-11-26, at 2:54 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: >> The ground rod needs to be bonded to the rest of the

Re: [time-nuts] lightening protection of a GPSDO system / optical isolated distribution amp

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Spencer
impedance antenna grounds are connected to an electrical service ground. My usual disclaimer of I'm not an expert in this field, the preceding is only my opinion, and don't rely on this applies. Mark Spencer On 2014-11-26, at 2:56 PM, Martin A Flynn wrote: > On 11/26/2014 5:14

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Spencer
One of my Z3805's (with the double oven 10811 ocxo iirc) also performs similarly at times to the 58503A mentioned by Said. From an adev perspective it's close to my BVA at some tau's (around a hundred seconds or so iirc.) At times though the output seems to "jump" in frequency. My other Z38

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-12 Thread Mark Spencer
g term drift.) From time to time I also cross check my "best" GPSDO against another GPSDO (: Regards Mark Spencer Sent from my iPad On 2014-11-11, at 4:26 PM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Mark wrote: > >> I find the concept of occasionally adjusting a good OCXO which in t

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz OCXO recommendations

2014-11-11 Thread Mark Spencer
casionally adjusting a good OCXO which in turn is used as a reference works well for me.I have some that haven't needed adjustment for over 2 years (they are still well within one part per billion of being on frequency.) That being said the MV89's were at least fairly in expensive

Re: [time-nuts] Rb as source for ADEV?

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Spencer
To add a bit to this discussion I recently switched from using from using HP5370B's for long term data collection to HP5335's.   For plotting the long term drift of two of my more stable OCXO's versus a GPSDO  the 5335's combined with Timelab work fine for my limited needs.   Just for grins I co

Re: [time-nuts] temperature

2013-12-08 Thread Mark Spencer
tween frequency shifts in some ocxo's vs temperature changes. I should also start taking humidity measurements as well at some point. Any pointers re suitable instruments to accomplish this that can be sourced via the usual surplus sources would be welcome. Thanks in advance Mark Spencer Se

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Question concerning ADEV measurements

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi Bob, All of my actively used HP5370B's exhibit behavior similar to yours. I routinely use a BVA oscillator as the clock for most of my HP5370B's. I've also done some testing comparing the reported adev of other signals using various references and swapping between the internal oscillato

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO choices

2013-10-04 Thread Mark Spencer
. If you would like more specfic info feel free to contact me off list and I can try to help. Regards Mark Spencer -- > On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:24 PM, Paul wrote: > > I'm looking for a new, ready to go, inexpensive" desktop GPSDO.  So > far I

Re: [time-nuts] [time nuts] B.V.A. 8600 for sale

2013-08-29 Thread Mark Spencer
013-08-29, at 1:08 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: > During my efforts to find a standard that could serve as reference to help > characterize my FTS1050, I went thru a succession of 10811's, several stand > alone datum 1000's from the usual auction site, an HP105B, a wenzel from the

Re: [time-nuts] [time nuts] B.V.A. 8600 for sale

2013-08-29 Thread Mark Spencer
During my efforts to find a standard that could serve as reference to help characterize my FTS1050, I went thru a succession of 10811's, several stand alone datum 1000's from the usual auction site, an HP105B, a wenzel from the usual auction site etc and none of them came even close to the adev

Re: [time-nuts] Getting a 5370A tomorrow - How do i test it works

2013-08-28 Thread Mark Spencer
timum input levels for peak performance. Regards Mark Spencer Sent from my iPad ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Warped back to 1993

2013-08-11 Thread Mark Spencer
At least one my Z3805's is also showing a date from 1993. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.

2013-07-15 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi, the recent discussion about 10811's with double oven's caused me to take another look at some of the data I've collected from one of my two GPSDO's that uses a 10811 double oven OCXO.   I realize there is much more to the performance of a GPSDO than the OCXO but I  can't say I'm unhappy with

Re: [time-nuts] Lead acid battery noise levels

2013-07-10 Thread Mark Spencer
Eric: http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1133.pdf discusses the noise levels of various batteries. Regards Mark S Message: 6 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:11:00 -0700 From: Eric Williams To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement     Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lead acid battery no

Re: [time-nuts] Lead acid battery noise levels

2013-07-09 Thread Mark Spencer
g the OCXO directly connected to the battery bank while the batteries are float charged. Best regards Mark Spencer ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the in

[time-nuts] Lead acid battery noise levels

2013-07-08 Thread Mark Spencer
cated that gel cell batteries are not known for low noise levels (: Best regards Mark Spencer ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Question about effect of sample interval on ADEV

2013-07-07 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi, to echo the comments John and Magnus made, I've encountered similar issues in the past when using my HP5370B's to compare my FTS 1050 to other standards.  The fix involved using double shielded "RG 400 style" cables in my lab (I realize the RG 400 standard is not really a standard any more..

Re: [time-nuts] HP and other equipment failure

2013-06-14 Thread Mark Spencer
I be inclined to go down this road before I started blowing extra air over them with fans.   In general I agree with the comments about the serviceability of the older HP gear.  I'm hopefull that I can keep at least two of my four HP5370B's working for many years to co

Re: [time-nuts] Time source for indoor standalone PC

2013-05-17 Thread Mark Spencer
more detail.  (Sorry I am on the road right now.)   Regards Mark Spencer --- On Fri, 5/17/13, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: From: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com Subject: time-nuts Digest, Vol 106, Issue 80 To: time-nuts@febo.com Received: Friday, May 17, 2013, 9:00 AM Send time-nuts mailing

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