Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab/iPad)
Mark, If the planet were not inclined 23 degrees this might make sense. But it turns out daylight times differ by latitude and season and hemisphere. So it is not surprising that nations, or even states within large nations, assume the right to set their own rules of local time. /tvb On Jul 1

[time-nuts] NERC TEC test postponed

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab/iPad)
I've been told the NERC has decided to postpone their July 14 TEC-elimination test. Sorry I don't have a URL with more information. Those of you logging 60 Hz data should continue. As you know from my web site, measuring any sort of time/freq source is interesting. If nothing else you will have a

Re: [time-nuts] Primary Time Standards

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab/iPad)
A primary frequency standard is one that faithfully implements the definition of the SI second. Thus primary standards are based on Cs. But not all Cs-based clocks are primary. CSAC, for example, is not a primary standard. Rubidium, hydrogen, quartz, or pendulum clocks are not primary. The defi

Re: [time-nuts] Primary Time Standards

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab/iPad)
> Absolutely, but you can still pull a new Cs out of the box and it will > run at the same frequency as your old Cs. Not quite "the same". This is called the re-trace spec which is poorer than the stability spec. Vintage Cs standards like the 5060 or 5061 powered up within about 1e-10 or 1e-11.

Re: [time-nuts] Japan Quake May Have Shortened Earth Days, Moved Axis

2011-07-15 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab/iPad)
> 1E14 we might be able to notice Hal, No. Look at the adev of the earth (earlier posting). The length of earth day varies in the *milli*second range, day to day. VLBI measurements are under 0.1 millisecond, which comes to about 1e-9 resolution. Realize that none of the NASA "earthquake may ha

Re: [time-nuts] The future of UTC

2011-07-14 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab/iPad)
Antonio, and other posters, The issue of leap seconds is covered in the "LEAPSECS" mailing list rather than time-nuts. You can find the archives at: http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs Please move your well thought out questions or comments to that list. Thanks, /tvb

Re: [time-nuts] Japan Quake May Have Shortened Earth Days, Moved Axis

2011-07-14 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab/iPad)
> So what is the Allan deviation of the earth spinning? :) http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/earth/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instr