Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Rick Karlquist
Bruce Griffiths wrote: >> One concern is: > How accurate does one' thermometer which one uses to calibrate the > thermistor bridge setpoint have to be? > > Bruce The thermistors HP used were quite accurate, so you didn't need a thermometer. You just calculated the correct resistor value for the t

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Dan Rae wrote: > Bruce Griffiths wrote: > >> Meanwhile, before posting a correction I was trying to find data on the >> oven setpoint temperature tolerance. >> >> The relevant HP Journal with an article on the HP10811A is: >> http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1981-03.pdf >> >> One c

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Dan Rae
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Meanwhile, before posting a correction I was trying to find data on the > oven setpoint temperature tolerance. > > The relevant HP Journal with an article on the HP10811A is: > http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1981-03.pdf > > One concern is: > How accurate doe

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Rick Karlquist wrote: > Bruce Griffiths wrote: > >> Dan >> >> The real reasons that this part is labelled non replaceable are >> >> 1) its epoxied to the oven. >> >> 2) Setting R20 to the correct value actually requires plotting the OCXO >> frequency vs R20 and selecting R20 so that the OCXO fre

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Rick Karlquist
Bruce Griffiths wrote: >> > Dan > > The real reasons that this part is labelled non replaceable are > > 1) its epoxied to the oven. > > 2) Setting R20 to the correct value actually requires plotting the OCXO > frequency vs R20 and selecting R20 so that the OCXO frequency is located > at the station

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Dan Rae wrote: > The 10811-60111 that came in my 5370B counter turned out to have an open > circuit Thermistor in it. This is a "non-replaceable" part in theory. > > However, nothing to lose, I have successfully substituted a Digikey Part > number: 317-1371 100 kOhm 1% Thermistor ( from Cantherm

[time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Dan Rae
The 10811-60111 that came in my 5370B counter turned out to have an open circuit Thermistor in it. This is a "non-replaceable" part in theory. However, nothing to lose, I have successfully substituted a Digikey Part number: 317-1371 100 kOhm 1% Thermistor ( from Cantherm, part number: MF51B104