Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-25 Thread Azelio Boriani
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-24 Thread Joseph Gwinn
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Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-24 Thread Esa Heikkinen
Joseph Gwinn kirjoitti: When I last used IRIG-B005, the vendor (Symmetricom?) said it was good for a few meters only on shielded twisted pair. I recall that the handling of shield grounds was strange. This was OK, because the signal was confined to one cabinet, and it worked just fine. But

[time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-23 Thread Joseph Gwinn
: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought Message-ID: CAJ_qRvZ+1Zep_Wx8k+o-qY=h3dxgdnlcpj20tuaw_ncffmi...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Joseph Gwinn joegw...@comcast.net wrote: The definition of good here

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-22 Thread Esa Heikkinen
Joseph Gwinn kirjoitti: I prefer the DC level shifted variant of IRIG-B. I like and use IRIG-B00x too, but it only reaches a few meters, versus the required tens of meters. It's differential RS485-alike bus (with TS2100 at least) using 5V signalling level. It works easily more than few

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-22 Thread Hal Murray
It's util/tg2.c How do I get hold of the code? Is it in the NTP distribution, versus all by itself somewhere? It's in the normal distribution. Tar file available from: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SoftwareDownloads -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-22 Thread Joseph Gwinn
-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought Message-ID: 2015052112517328.ec5eb...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Multiple answers interspersed below. Joe On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:04:19 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: [snip

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-22 Thread Chris Albertson
I remember the need to use assembly also. But those days are gone for two reasons (1) modern optimizing compilers are so good that they can beat hand written assembly. and (2) Today CPUs are cheeper than software engineers. Back in the 70's it was the other way around. And NO, using C is

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-22 Thread Hal Murray
joegw...@comcast.net said: I recall that there are audio files with real IRIG-B12x signals in them, for testing. Does anyone recall where these files are? There is a program in the ntp package that generates IRIG audio from the local system clock. It says IRIG-B, but I don't know about

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-22 Thread Tim Shoppa
measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought See for example the Truetime 820 decoder. Discriminators, One-shots, and Flip-Flops with pots to tweak the levels. Hmm. Interesting. URL? I'm not sure 0.1us is a reasonable

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-21 Thread Joseph Gwinn
...@rubidium.se Subject: Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought -- Joe, On 05/19/2015 03:51 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad approaches, especially in the presence

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-21 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Wed, 20 May 2015 12:00:01 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 09:19:47 -0500 From: Graham / KE9H ke9h.gra...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-20 Thread Graham / KE9H
Be aware that there are about 100 variations on IRIG B, that is, B000 through B257. You should obtain a copy of IRIG STANDARD 200-04, the 2004 version, which I believe is the most current. It is available on line, if you Google for it. --- Graham / KE9H == On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Neil

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Neil Schroeder
A bc635 can be had on eBay for almost nothing. It's not a pleasant piece of gear, but this is one task it can help you with greatly. Tools exist to let you analyse the stream extensively, and the Api is trivial to learn -but not super featured at the high level. On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Tim

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Esa Heikkinen
Joseph Gwinn kirjoitti: I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad approaches, especially in the presence of noise? (I asked on the NTP group, with little result beyond the C/C++ decoder software written for the audio channel of a 1990s Sun

[time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Joseph Gwinn
I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad approaches, especially in the presence of noise? (I asked on the NTP group, with little result beyond the C/C++ decoder software written for the audio channel of a 1990s Sun workstation, which it ate

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joe, On 05/19/2015 03:51 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad approaches, especially in the presence of noise? (I asked on the NTP group, with little result beyond the C/C++ decoder software written for the audio

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Tim Shoppa
See for example the Truetime 820 decoder. Discriminators, One-shots, and Flip-Flops with pots to tweak the levels. Tim N3QE On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Joseph Gwinn joegw...@comcast.net wrote: I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad