Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-31 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi, if I remember my statistics correctly: 1-Sigma is the standard deviation of all measurements. 6-Sigma is something like 99.997%(?) of all measurements, basically all relevant measurements. Keep in mind that the Motorola GPS need to be initialized by a binary string, they will not

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-31 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, the Motorola parts have one drawback: they need a Lithium battery (or similar) to keep the most recent Almanac. I have found that the TTFF (first fix) can take quite long if the battery is weak (2V) and the RTC stops due to You

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-31 Thread James Maynard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Clock Granularity message is to be applied to the next following 1PPS pulse in Motorola speak. Typically, the 1PPS is captured by a Microcontroller, which can then add the granularity message data to the capture time, and thus improve the measurement

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-31 Thread Tom Van Baak
You can find M12+ sawtooth information and plots at: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/m12/sawtooth.htm Also, here is a nice graph comparing the 1 PPS error of 4 GPS receivers: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/gps4/cns-1pps.gif Dark blue is a Motorola Oncore VP with approximately +/- 50 ns of

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-31 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: I'm not sure if Trimble does it on the Resolution T, but on the Trimpack GPS receivers, http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/Trimpack.shtml#BUB have a Lithium battery soldered to one of the PCBs and a Dallas chip that turns all the RAM into non volatile memory (just like core memory in

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread SAIDJACK
From the leapsecond.com website, it seems the Trimble gets 2.15E-011 at 1000s intervalls. The M12+ achieves 2.9E-012 at 1000s intervalls. The M12+ is speced at 10ns 1-Sigma, the Trimble seems to be 15ns at 1-Sigma. There is an M12+ follow-up modell comming soon which is even better

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread Normand Martel
Well, thanks for the advice! ...And also one other convincing (at least for me) feature: The M12+ has a choice of either a 1PPS precise signal or a 100PPS precise signal. For my application (GPS disciplined frequency standard), the 100PPS option will surely help settle the frequency for the few

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Normand Martel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : What's that clock granularity message? The M12+ reports the error in the PPS position. If you make your measurement, then add in its estimated error, you can get that level of precision. I'm not sure how you

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread Ulrich Bangert
and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T? Well, thanks for the advice! ...And also one other convincing (at least for me) feature: The M12+ has a choice of either a 1PPS precise signal or a 100PPS precise signal. For my application (GPS

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Normand Martel writes: Performance using clock granularity message: Better than 2ns, 1 sigma Better than 6ns, 6 sigma Performance NOT using clock granularity message: Better than 10ns, 1 sigma Better than 20ns, 6 sigma What's that clock granularity

Re: [time-nuts] ...Your thoughts on the Trimble Resolution T?

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi... I seriously think about buying a Trimble Resolution T timing GPS receiver for a GPS disciplined OCXO frequency standard (Brooks Shera W5OJM's project). Have someone worked with this receiver? The claimed maximum 1PPS to UTC error is 15ns, the best figure i saw yet on GPS