[time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Michael Baker
Hello, Time-Nutters-- A real-world precision timing need: As a dedicated long-range rifle shooter and ballistics enthusiast, I am in the early stages of a project I am getting started on... The object is to measure the velocity of a rifle bullet both at the muzzle and downrange

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Javier Herrero
Hello, Long ago I was involved in a project that has something to do with test cannons. They used a doppler radar (a commercially available equipment, but I don't remember the manufacturer) for measuring the speed of the bullet (a rather big one... if I was right, it was a 155mm caliper :) )

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Kasper Pedersen
While in the shower: You have the advantage that most of the equipment will be more or less in line, and you will have line of sight. What if, at each station, you let your microcontroller generate a 10kHz carrier modulated by a 5kHz PN code, through an IR led, and through a plastic lens (children

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Jim Lux
I'd think you don't even need the pn code. Check out any of the wireless modules for sending analog video on 2.4ghz.. Cobble together an antenna with gain. Calibrate the delay throughout the hardware at 50 yd or so using hardline compare, and extrapolate to longer ranges. On Oct 31, 2010,

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/31/2010 01:56 PM, Michael Baker wrote: Hello, Time-Nutters-- A real-world precision timing need: As a dedicated long-range rifle shooter and ballistics enthusiast, I am in the early stages of a project I am getting started on... The object is to measure the velocity

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Christophe Huygens
XBEE PRO XSC + PIC can do datalink this for about 75$ / observation point, if you don't require high throughput Xtof. Finding a suitable data-link is much more an issue than the time-scale and time-stamping issues, which could be done with sufficient precision for not too much money and eff

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Been down this road before. The issue turns out to be the optics in the sky screens. You can only get "just so good" without fancy optics. The normal photo detector behind a slit with the sky as the light source is far from optimum. If you are going to put money into the system, the optics

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Bob Camp wrote: > Adequate protection starts at about 1" of steel plate if it's angled to the > incoming projectiles. Using hardened armor plate (as used for steel "gong" targets) can get that down under a half inch, resulting in a lot less mass to drag downrange

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Mike: Are you looking into the Pejsa Ballistics computations? http://www.prc68.com/I/FNFAL.shtml#Bal Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com Michael Baker wrote: Hello, Time-Nutters-- A real-world precision timing need: As a dedicated long-range rifle shooter and ball

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The gotcha is that the gong can move / twist when hit. The plate buried in front of the electronics has to just sit there and take it. More energy transfer to the anchored plate. I'm sure there are alloys that will get you under 1", the issue will be making sure you have the right one...

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > The gotcha is that the gong can move / twist when hit. The plate buried in > front of the electronics has to just sit there and take it. More energy > transfer to the anchored plate. > > I'm sure there are alloys that will get you under 1", the i

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-11-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The original request was to measure both velocity down range and time of flight. They certainly are related, however the relation (especially around the speed of sound) is difficult to estimate. If you are dealing with a projectile that drops sub-sonic as it goes down range, velocity is inde

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-11-01 Thread scmcgrath
Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need Hi The original request was to measure both velocity down range and time of flight. They certainly are related, however the relation (especially around the

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-11-01 Thread scmcgrath
l.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:57:43 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Reply-To: scmcgr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need Why not purchase one of the existing ballistic chronographs and upgrade the time base? Sent from my Ve

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-11-01 Thread Bob Camp
BlackBerry -Original Message- From: scmcgr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:57:43 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Reply-To: scmcgr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need Why not purchase one of the existing ballistic chronogr