Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection

2012-02-23 Thread Tom Knox
. The question was would this display provide useful information beyond the traditional alpha numeric info. Thomas Knox > Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:29:48 +1300 > From: bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection > > If and o

Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection

2012-02-23 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Knox wrote: I was thinking you could view it through fiber Thomas Knox Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:19:57 +0100 From: att...@kinali.ch To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article) On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:14:34 -0700 Tom Knox wrote: Rather

Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article)

2012-02-22 Thread Tom Knox
@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article) > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:57:01 -0800 > Chris Albertson wrote: > > > I think the next generation of Rb physics packages will use a laser as > > the light source and have the laser, Rb cell and de

Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article)

2012-02-22 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:57:01 -0800 Chris Albertson wrote: > I think the next generation of Rb physics packages will use a laser as > the light source and have the laser, Rb cell and detector all in one > glass envelope. I've seen one like this that is just tiny. But as I > recall there was a pr

Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article)

2012-02-22 Thread Tom Knox
I was thinking you could view it through fiber Thomas Knox > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:19:57 +0100 > From: att...@kinali.ch > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article) > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:14:34 -0700 > Tom Knox

Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article)

2012-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
The trend with Rb clocks is to try and make then smaller and cheaper. If all you need to do is detect the amount of light a one-pixel sensor is enough. If you divide the sensor into multiple pixels you just get more noise because fewer photons fall on each pixel. So a photo-transisor is ideal as

Re: [time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article)

2012-02-22 Thread paul swed
Hmm in interesting prospect. However its unclear to me as to the benefit of trying this. I do know what gets lost. Its not just a dimming of the light 1-2% as stated its also the modulation on the light beam. I think 286 Hz thats critical to locking the system. So the ccd is very capable of recover

[time-nuts] CCD lock detection (was: DIY Physics Article)

2012-02-22 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:14:34 -0700 Tom Knox wrote: > Rather then a simple lock LED I think what would be interesting if possible > to place a CCD next to a Rubidium or Cesium cell to view the luminance at > the hyperfine transiton. I am sure someone has done this but I have not > seen it. I don