Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-17 Thread Florian Teply
Am Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:41:02 +1300 schrieb "Dave Brown" : > Cobham is a UK based defence and high end security supplier- > originally formed (not too many years ago) by their buying out of > several other companies in their lines of business. More recently > they have got into aerospace activitie

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-13 Thread Clint Jay
s@febo.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal? > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist >> wrote: >> >> I left Agilent just before the split, but I don't know >&

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-13 Thread Dave Brown
me-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: I left Agilent just before the split, but I don't know anyone there who liked that name. Or the logo :-) Another recent name change (acquisition) that is even worse is Aero

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-13 Thread Daniel Watson
Hi, I had an interesting experience with a local cal lab when I took in my HP 5334B (Option 010). I'd recently purchased the unit and had no idea of its calibration history. At the time I wasn't quite a time nut, and I didn't own a reference to check frequency accuracy myself. I was hoping to get

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread Joseph Gray
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: > I left Agilent just before the split, but I don't know > anyone there who liked that name. Or the logo :-) Another recent name change (acquisition) that is even worse is Aeroflex to Cobham. I realize that Cobham is probably a fa

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread Joseph Gray
The consensus seems to be that I was expecting more than I should have. That's what I get for reading service manuals :-) Other than the confusion over what I was expecting, I can't fault the cal lab I sent the meter to. They are charging me a hobbyist-friendly price and aren't going to charge me

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread Clint Jay
Generally, whenever I've had a non manufacturer 'calibration' it's been a certification service that tells you your equipment is within spec and gives you the variances and probability of uncertainty, a pass/fail test. Where equipment was out of spec then any service to bring it within spec was u

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 12 Feb 2016 21:12, "Joseph Gray" wrote: > > I sent my HP 3457A in for cal. I should be getting it back next week. > I won't mention where I sent it, but it wasn't Keysight (I don't like > that name). I recently changed the SRAM battery and purposely did not > save the cal constants. You may ha

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 2/12/2016 12:14 PM, Joseph Gray wrote: I sent my HP 3457A in for cal. I should be getting it back next week. I won't mention where I sent it, but it wasn't Keysight (I don't like that name). I recently changed the SRAM battery and purposely did not I left Agilent just before the split, but I

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread paul swed
Joe I will believe they only do that procedure in a real repair. I had to do the same thing on a tek 2465b scope. O man what a complete pain in the rear and literally 8+ hours of work. So I can fully appreciate the reality that a Calibration is a check and trim for accuracy. Most likely an hour or

Re: [time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread Scott McGrath
'Normal' calibration is a performance check and adjustments as required Performance checks are applying stimulus and checking instrument response is within the acceptable range. A Full calibration is adjust each parameter to as close as practicable to ideal value and may include new cal consta

[time-nuts] Calibration procedures - what is normal?

2016-02-12 Thread Joseph Gray
I sent my HP 3457A in for cal. I should be getting it back next week. I won't mention where I sent it, but it wasn't Keysight (I don't like that name). I recently changed the SRAM battery and purposely did not save the cal constants. I bought the meter second hand and it wasn't in spec when I bough