Re: [time-nuts] Continously drifting HP 10811...

2017-11-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One interesting thing to look at on modern OCXO’s: Part of the factory alignment *probably* was intended to set the unit at the center of the EFC range. Back in the days of people selecting caps or selecting resistors, that could be a pretty coarse kind of thing. At some point computers got

[time-nuts] Continously drifting HP 10811...

2017-11-09 Thread Mark Sims
I put a UCT8663 DOCXO in my HP-53132A counter (using Gerry Sweeny's adapter board). I bought a bunch of those DOCXOs around 10 years ago. It was never powered up during that time. Here are the notes that I made: UTC 8663 mounted on Sweeny DOCXO card in a HP 53132A counter. The 8663 had

Re: [time-nuts] Continously drifting HP 10811...

2017-11-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, For better oscillators I let them sit for at least a week, but preferably a month, before making any judgements on them. The readings taken is really just their warm-up behavior. Wider phase-noise can be measured earlier, but very close-in and ADEV/MDEV stabillty, not so much. Hadamard

Re: [time-nuts] Continously drifting HP 10811...

2017-11-08 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Ulf wrote: the oscillators exhibit a monotonus EFC voltage drift towards 0 volts. About + 1 mV in 3 minutes. * * * Test time has been 3 Days, and I beleive thata 10811 should have been able to reach thermal equilibrium during this time. There is much more than thermal equilibrium

Re: [time-nuts] Continously drifting HP 10811...

2017-11-08 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One of the weak points of a normal 10811 is that it is not hermetically sealed. Left in storage for years, they “soak up” humidity. In some cases it can take a fairly long time (weeks, months) for them to fully dry out. Until they have been run for at least a week, don’t get excited about

[time-nuts] Continously drifting HP 10811...

2017-11-08 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Gentlemen. I am about to try to repair a second 5065Aand have now tested a number of 10811 Quartzoscillators that was in the junk box. In order to test the 10811, I put them it in a chassisthat is used for GPS-locking. Adjust for lockand then monitor the EFC-voltage over time. Starting out