Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-10 Thread Robert Atkinson
. Forster j...@quik.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: Thursday, 9 September, 2010, 22:14 Peltier devices have been used as temperature control elements for decades. I've never heard of fatigue

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction (Jerome Peters)

2010-09-10 Thread David
Might be worth a glance: http://www.eevblog.com/2010/07/25/eevblog-101-hacking-your-own-peltier-lab-thermal-chamber/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-10 Thread Hal Murray
Does anybody know about using the same Peltier junction for both heating and cooling? I'm concerned about thermal/mechanical shock when changing the polarity back-n-forth between hot and cold. Maybe there needs to be a controlled ramp, if so then how do I figure out the rate? Not an

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-10 Thread Robert Atkinson
: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 8:59 Does anybody know about using the same Peltier junction for both heating and cooling? I'm concerned about thermal/mechanical shock when

[time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread Jerome Peters
Does anybody know about using the same Peltier junction for both heating and cooling? I'm concerned about thermal/mechanical shock when changing the polarity back-n-forth between hot and cold. Maybe there needs to be a controlled ramp, if so then how do I figure out the rate? Why: I'm in the

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread Don Latham
For this temp range, thermal shock or reversal should not be a problem. Neither is reversal, just use a (relatively) cheap h-bridge off epay... working out the water temp might be a problem? There will be no problem with h-bridges, as the Peltier junction has very small L-C values, ie not like a

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread Don @ True-Cal
there, done that.  Regards... Don From: Jerome Peters jpet...@nvidia.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 2:41:52 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction Does anybody know about using

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread J. Forster
Peltier devices have been used as temperature control elements for decades. I've never heard of fatigue failures, but, if I were designing a chamber as you suggest, I'd try to keep the temperature differential across the TE element under maybe 15 to 20F. The harder you push it, the greater the

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread Bruce Griffiths
There is a reference to thermomechanical fatigue in Peltier devices with respect to the effect of peltier device ripple current on the longevity of the Peltier devices in the HP Journal article on an optical power meter. Bruce J. Forster wrote: Peltier devices have been used as temperature

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread paul swed
Can you just close the system and let the item self heat. Then you only ever have a cooling problem. Seems I am familiar with a very large computer manufacture who does it that way. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:14 PM, J. Forster j...@quik.com wrote: Peltier devices have been used as temperature

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread Jerome Peters
Of paul swed Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:55 PM To: j...@quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction Can you just close the system and let the item self heat. Then you only ever have a cooling problem. Seems I am

Re: [time-nuts] Cycling of Peltier junction

2010-09-09 Thread Chuck Harris
It's kind of important for the heating and cooling systems to be able to overlap. I think you will get much tighter control if you use a simple resistance heater and the Peltier cooler. -Chuck Harris Jerome Peters wrote: Does anybody know about using the same Peltier junction for both heating