[time-nuts] Dual Mixer update

2011-02-20 Thread EWKehren
It is close to 18 month now that I first proposed a D/M for $200. Thanks to the help of Corby, Richard, Brian, Bob and Hubert I think it is very close to final release. The delay is mainly due to testing, not by the five mentioned above but by others, that did get kits under the condition

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-12 Thread WarrenS
Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer Warren Calculating an integral using a sampled data system when the Nyquist criterion is met is exactly equivalent

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-12 Thread Bruce Griffiths
WarrenS wrote: Bruce Good, It does seem like we are finally making some good progress. You now seem to acknowledge that my tester could work if I integrate. You now seem to acknowledge that I am integrating by using a filter. In a sampled data system integration is equivalent to a filter but

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-12 Thread Steve Rooke
Sounds like someone is grandstanding to me! Steve On 12 May 2010 22:26, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: WarrenS wrote: Bruce Good, It does seem like we are finally making some good progress. You now seem to acknowledge that my tester could work if I integrate. You now

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread K. Szeker
Hi Bert, I can help you in PCAD schema drowing(i.e. as xxx.pdf output too)_have a litle experiance :-). (so ca. 20 years, with RF layouting so good 30 years)... Best Greetings, Karesz 2010/5/11 ewkeh...@aol.com The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every ones memory

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread EWKehren
Thank you Karesz. I will contact you direct and we can look at what needs to be done. Nothing Fancy. Bert In a message dated 5/11/2010 10:59:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, szeke...@gmail.com writes: Hi Bert, I can help you in PCAD schema drowing(i.e. as xxx.pdf output too)_have a

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread K. Szeker
OK Bert! Im wayting on your scripts... K. 2010/5/11 ewkeh...@aol.com Thank you Karesz. I will contact you direct and we can look at what needs to be done. Nothing Fancy. Bert In a message dated 5/11/2010 10:59:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, szeke...@gmail.com writes: Hi Bert, I

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread EWKehren
. http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/10811-g/ (The results from my PLL tester is attached) ws ** - Original Message - From: ewkeh...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
** - Original Message - From: ewkeh...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every ones memory as to my goals. a) Total cost less than $ 200 b) 1 E-13 with a one second offset

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Camp
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer As long as one is aware that your method (as implemented by you) doesn't actually measure Allan variance, it may be useful for comparing the relative stability some sources for small Tau (unfortunately the range

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread WarrenS
://www.leapsecond.com/pages/10811-g/ (The results from my PLL tester is attached) ws ** - Original Message - From: EWKehren at aol.com To: time-nuts at febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
: EWKehren at aol.com To: time-nuts at febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every ones memory as to my goals. a) Total cost less than $ 200 b) 1 E-13 with a one second offset c) use parts attainable

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread WarrenS
Oscillator test. http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/10811-g/ (The results from my PLL tester is attached) ws ** - Original Message - From: EWKehren at aol.com To: time-nuts at febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread EWKehren
test. http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/10811-g/ (The results from my PLL tester is attached) ws ** - Original Message - From: EWKehren at aol.com To: time-nuts at febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every ones memory as to my goals. a) Total cost less than $ 200 b) 1 E-13 with a one second offset c) use parts attainable by every one d) easy to assemble only a few

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread WarrenS
/10811-g/ (The results from my PLL tester is attached) ws ** - Original Message - From: EWKehren at aol.com To: time-nuts at febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
tester is attached) ws ** - Original Message - From: EWKehren at aol.com To: time-nuts at febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every ones memory as to my goals. a) Total cost

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread John Miles
on your project. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:31 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer Allow me to apologize to start

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Camp
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:31 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer Allow me to apologize to start this again. Bert In a message dated 5/11/2010 7:25:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, warrensjmail

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread WarrenS
/pages/10811-g/ (The results from my PLL tester is attached) ws ** - Original Message - From: EWKehren at aol.com To: time-nuts at febo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every ones memory as to my goals. a) Total cost less than $ 200 b) 1 E-13 with a one second offset c) use parts attainable by every one d) easy to assemble only a few surface mount parts e) a five channel

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread John Miles
As long as the idea is comparing the oscillators here in the basement, there are a lot of things you can do. As soon as the bragging rights bug cuts in, knowing that the numbers are correct becomes an issue. With many noise measurement issues the assumption that better is correct can serve

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2010-05-11 Thread Bruce Griffiths
, 2010 7:02 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer The Dual Mixer project is nearing completion. Let me refresh every ones memory as to my goals. a) Total cost less than $ 200 b) 1 E-13 with a one second offset c) use parts attainable by every one d) easy to assemble only a few surface mount parts e

[time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2009-11-16 Thread EWKehren
As part of the Dual Mixer project I am looking for a source of reasonably priced 80 MHz Xtal's in HC 49 holder. International Crystal wants $12 in fifty Qty. In my opinion to high. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2009-11-16 Thread Dan Rae
ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: As part of the Dual Mixer project I am looking for a source of reasonably priced 80 MHz Xtal's in HC 49 holder. International Crystal wants $12 in fifty Qty. In my opinion to high. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Bert Kehren How about XC1567CT-ND from

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer

2009-11-16 Thread Alan Melia
-nuts] Dual Mixer As part of the Dual Mixer project I am looking for a source of reasonably priced 80 MHz Xtal's in HC 49 holder. International Crystal wants $12 in fifty Qty. In my opinion to high. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Bert Kehren

[time-nuts] Dual Mixer/DMTD

2009-10-02 Thread EWKehren
A couple of months ago I did announce that I plan to build a dual Mixer based on the NBS design with minor updates and add a counter section. All with a cost goal of $ 200. Having all parts in house the goal has been reached when boards get ordered in quantity ten. Thanks to inputs from

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer/DMTD

2009-10-02 Thread Henk
Hi Bert, This is amazing and i hope that you can make it available for us to build one. I am very interested. regards, Henk A couple of months ago I did announce that I plan to build a dual Mixer based on the NBS design with minor updates and add a counter section. All with a cost goal of

Re: [time-nuts] Dual Mixer/DMTD

2009-10-02 Thread EWKehren
Henk, it will be available to every one the challenge will be buying in groups, I definitely do not want to be in the mail order business. Bert In a message dated 10/2/2009 10:11:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, h...@deriesp.demon.nl writes: Hi Bert, This is amazing and I hope that you